Originally posted by karen61560
reply to post by BSFC123
There are lots of books out there that tell people what to do and how to behave. What makes yours the right one? What does your god say to all of his children who dont read the bible or who dont believe what it says? He just turns his back? Nice god. Great parent.
As for the Gog and Magog war Persia is old Iran and Iraq .
the land of Magog is the land up around the Black Sea. .
I suppose Rosh included in the group attacking Israel isn't Russia ? .
What do you think is going on over there ? You just can't deny it and it will go away .
In the Bible the Antichrist will control this system and will cause every man to take the mark .The 10 kings of the earth ( Banksters) will give their power to the one . These will be the same people who owns the FED Reserve and IMF and World Bank .
They are Askenazi Jews every one .
Your sure of that . Iran has intended to attack Israel for some time now to cause a world war to bring back their Mahdi . As for the Gog Magog war and who is Rosh . You don't really know do you .The descendants of Turkey migrated Northward around the Caspian and Black Sea . Who else could shut down Israel from firing off their nukes but Russia and the UN might call for Russia to intervene to stop a nuclear exchange . Israel can't tangle with Russia . Russia is in place and that war is coming . The IDIOTS in power now in Iran believe it is the will of ALLAH to start this major calamity and to bring back their 12th IMAM or Mahdi . We know how radical they can be .
The players are in position today and the war will be fought . Call it what you will . You aren't going to change it .And you can ignore it only for so long .
Originally posted by NahledgeEast
Ummmmm according to the bible religious and superstitious mean the same thing. Look at how many people believe in a program that was created for control. Only those who know their true self will ascend to the next dimension and you can only do that by looking within not in a book. You shall never see the truth looking through the lenses of a lie.
Originally posted by zero1020
I don't need a god to tell me right from wrong, my parents taught me morality. If god does exist and the world does end soon I'm sure he/it won't let me burn in a lake of fire. If I live a just life and coexist with my fellow man without believing in god do I deserve to go to hell? Seems unfair to me, maybe I should bow down and submit to the cruel, heartless entity known as god so I don't go to hell.
Originally posted by flexy123
Originally posted by BSFC123
You do actually have some good points in your OP, even when I usually are not very keen on "religious" postings.
But you make a mistake (in my opinion) centering your entire belief around the concept of SIN. I read that a few times throughout your post.
It is my firm opinion that sin (or at least MOST of what we say is a "sin") are man-made concepts, as are concepts such as "good" or "evil". I know this might be very hard to understand, but I hope you will one day.
God has better things to do than judging Man for their "sins". Sorry, God (or whatever creator, if there is one) is better than that.
*** The "truth" is NOT about sin and it's NOT about judgement.
If you reduce your belief to be only about sin and the punishment for sin, you are limiting yourself and your entire religion!
God does not punish and he does (imho) not judge.
Life is given as a learning experience, and "sin" will always be a part of it. Why? BECAUSE WE ARE JUST HUMANS. Sin, in this life, serves the purpose to teach us something. We cannot EXIST without sin in one form of the other. God knows that. Ask yourself WHAT the purpose of life is and how "sin" could play a role with having a *very specific purpose* which ULTIMATELY will help us grow. (Yes, think about this!)
"The End Is Near".
it is entirely irrelevant. People preach about "the end" , "rapture" or whatever since Millennia. Its irrelevant and nothing but a misinterpretation, if not an outright lie.
Because "the end" is ALWAYS near. Everyone's life can end at any time. People, animals, plants, nothing is forever. We are born and there will be an end. For some sooner, for some later. Whether there is a set date for a rapture, what does it matter? What matters is ONLY what you have learned in your life.
Everyone will find out "the truth" at some point anyway, everyone will have their own "judgement day". (Of course the term "judgement" is misleading because there wont be a judgement, I just used the word so you know what I mean.)
Why would there be a need for a tribulation if anyone will die anyway at some point? Are the millions who die EVERY DAY in wars, due to illnesses, accidents or simply die due to age not enough? Life Death. Without death there is no life, Life is finite. On a cosmic scale maybe irrelevant, ridiculous short even. In the time a planet is born and might die later...billions of people will have been born and died again. Because this is what life is. And this is why there will not be a tribulation, its entirely not necessary.
The concept of "God's punishment" is a kindergarten-level idea. God has no interest in punishing. He has an interest that we LEARN something, to be ready for "the truth" in the afterlife, for a reality beyond this physical existence. We do not learn from punishment. The learning must come from ourselves.
The concept of sin and judgement is a lie, a distortion of the REAL message behind many religions.