reply to post by EnochWasRight
1) I am surprised that you´ve never heard of these believes, but here you go: en.wikipedia.org...
You will find a short history of the "young earth" theory. Although not every christian believes it, it is no secret that there are ultra religious
christian groups that do/did. The question is where do we draw the line?
2) I see what kind of a point you´re trying to make. As slavery was a common business practice in the day, we would have to expect rulings for that
in the bible. Plus you say that the modern employer/employee relationship is somewhat similar.
Well, I think you´re making it a little easy here. There are things written in the bible (the word of GOD!) that clearly allow you to kill or torture
a slave, or that you can trade children. I do not think that his still applies to the modern work relationship.
If you need examples, here are just a few:
"However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident
foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent
inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46
Oh, how about this little gem: " When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does
not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)"
How very christian, isn´t it?
You see what I mean? How can we ignore cruel texts like these? We either follow all the rules or we accept that not everything has relevance. There is
no middleground here.
3) Yeah well you just have disqualified yourself for further discussion. I can´t talk with you on that level, you are clearly way too far gone.
But just one little thing. According to the bible women were made by sacrificing a part of adams body. I know it´s confusing because there are two
stories out there.
But do you generally accept the christian viewpoint by which women are clearly inferior to men? Created as a partner for men, not on their own merits.
Clearly thought to be of less use by the church as we can also read in the quotes I posted about slavery.
Do you accept that viewpoint?
Oh another point on the scientific front. I suspect the fossils records were created like adam and eve? To entertain us maybe?
4) I personally think that there has to be an intelligence responsible for our universe as well.
But why oh why does it have to be genesis? Can´t we have a god that is NOT christian? Hmm? What about the billions of people in china and india who
aren´t christian btw? Are they all wrong? Is THEIR genisis not correct?
If a god created the universe, and as I said I believe that, why does it have to be the christian one?
Look here is what I know. There are unrefutable scientific facts that we have to incorporate in our theories. Carbon dating and fossil records are
only a few of those points. The big bang AND evolution are others.
Does that mean that there is no god? OF course not! It just means that the bible is like EVERY other religious text on this planet. NOT to be taken as
a literal historical document.
Trying to somehow fit the christian genisis into this scientific world by playing with definitions of days etc. is therefore a understandable but not
very useful operation.
We could go on with several logical examples, but usually types like yourself aren´t really open to those.
So let´s just agree to disagree.