Panetta to lift ban on women in combat, page 2


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reply posted on 23-1-2013 @ 04:40 PM by Jaellma
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic

Agreed because think of this scenario: you are a man and captured behind enemy lines. You are also with 3 other fellow soldiers. After months in captivity, you have found a way to escape. The time to run is now. Only 1 problem - all 3 of your fellow soldiers are women and they were all raped and now in their 3rd trimester of pregnancy before delivery. Great problem to have if you need to run 1/4 mile to safety for a quick helicopter rescue.

You see the implications?

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reply posted on 23-1-2013 @ 04:41 PM by Shamrock6
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one shot of what? espresso? hahahaha sorry, between that line and your 'coffee czar' sig, that joke had to be made. seriously though, private msg me or something bc i'd love to know what you shoot



reply posted on 23-1-2013 @ 04:42 PM by type0civ
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Men and women have natural roles...it's not political. Woman are nurturing and caring...the Army Nurse Corp in history is not sexist but natural. Women are allowed to be prison guards and they routinly get raped and murdered and toss in the dirty laundry. That's what happens when you politicize nature.


reply posted on 23-1-2013 @ 04:43 PM by Benevolent Heretic
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Originally posted by Heisenberg59
we already see instances of rape and other inappropriate behavior between male and female soldiers.


Yes, we ALREADY see that... So, because men can't contain themselves and think it's OK to attack women, the woman should suffer, right?

My questions was "What part does the penis play in war"?

A man's inability to control himself isn't a good enough reason. HE should be punished, not her.
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reply posted on 23-1-2013 @ 04:45 PM by Raist
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Physical testing is lighter for women in a lot of jobs including the police. Testing should be equal for there to be true equality.

I have no problem with a woman getting the job. That said the woman should not get the job or equal pay if she cannot pass the same testing as a male counterpart.


As for this issue, if the woman wants to go fight a meaningless war for the mega companies and banks that run the U.S. let them.

Raist


reply posted on 23-1-2013 @ 04:46 PM by Benevolent Heretic
reply to post by type0civ



Originally posted by type0civ
Woman are nurturing and caring...the Army Nurse Corp in history is not sexist but natural. Women are allowed to be prison guards and they routinly get raped and murdered and toss in the dirty laundry. That's what happens when you politicize nature.


No offense meant to anyone, but not all women are nurturing and caring! Some are more macho than 75% of men. And some men are so nurturing and caring they're practically a breast.

Keep your stereotypes.


reply posted on 23-1-2013 @ 04:46 PM by Benevolent Heretic
reply to post by Raist



I agree 100%. Didn't I say that earlier? Women should pass the SAME tests as men to do the same job.


reply posted on 23-1-2013 @ 04:51 PM by Raist
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I was not disagreeing with you. Yes you said it earlier, no need to go on the defensive. I would just like to see true equality since it is all about equailty.

I was simply backing up what you said by saying it should be that way all over the job market.

Raist


reply posted on 23-1-2013 @ 04:51 PM by Heisenberg59
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This is really not about sex with me. If I had it my way, women would be empowered to the point that they were able to completely defend themselves in every sense of the word. I want to help uplift women and stop the "poor me" damsel in distress garbage. We need MORE strong women in our lives.

This, however, is a completely different issue. There are real problems with letting women on the front lines with male soldiers.


reply posted on 23-1-2013 @ 04:56 PM by Wertdagf
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What happens when the ideals of freedom and equality we uphold are actually represented where ever the american army goes?

What happens when females in the middle east who are being beaten and molested by their relatives see female soldiers getting respect as an equal and kicking %$#.

This is exactly what that part of the world needs.
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