Originally posted by skitzspiricy
It's a very fine line really. Not everyone with Mental Health Disorders are Violent. Not every Schziophrenic in the throws of Psychosis will harm
another person, the same with Manic and Depressive episodes. There is however more of a probability that some of these people could turn a gun on
themselves to end their pain.
There are so many varying degrees of Mentall Illness, two people with the same disorder can be incredibly different. One could lead a normal life, the
other it could consume their whole lives. Each person diagnosed needs to be treated as an individual.
You mention "Sure someone with mental illness could snap and go on a killing spree, but these things happen".
I personally believe even the strongest of people under the right set of circumstances could snap and go on killling sprees.
edit on 23-1-2013 by skitzspiricy because: (no reason given)
I think that's an exemplary analysis of the OP's topic.
So many people these days make these sweeping generalizations about people and their supposed "instability" or "conditions"; let alone if you have
a "diagnosis" then forget about it, you're often fodder to the gossiping retards of this world.
It just goes to show you that people just want to live and enjoy life, and if one feels threatened, you do something that is preventative. The
question is, what is a legitimate prevention, where are the lines, and who draws them?
With regards to drawing the lines, it seems to me that more and more individuals are being placed in the "of arbitrary opinion" category simply
because they are perceived as potentially unstable due to vague circumstances regarding their varying mental conditions/diagnoses, and of course,
combined with the ownership of a firearm. It's the whole "we're the establishment, we know what's best for you" big brother kind of crap.
It can be a horrendous way to decapitate a person's ability to have self-esteem or respect from others when the people in "power" start asserting
agendas that are largely reactionary to localized, and often rare events, whereby many of the non-thinkers begin blindly aligning themselves with
these political movements, and treat anyone that even questions that political movement as a practical psychopath/genocidal maniac with no heart.
Reminds me of those that question 9/11, reminds me of all the times there is an agenda asserted by politicians, which is of course threaded-in by the
media, and so many people lap it up like it's their daily cheeseburger and fries.
Tangential for a moment:
Take away guns? Take away nukes...
"Well, you were born with a brain and arms and legs. Those all have the potential to cause harm...so..."
I guess it comes down to the statistical or legitimate probability that each individual may cause harm to another, or them selves, with or without a
fire arm or weapon of some kind (a weapon that causes physical harm/death can literally be almost anything).
Furthermore, in regard to "mental illness," a diagnosis is not necessarily indicative of greatly increased chance that a person will inflict harm,
and no diagnosis is not necessarily indicative of a greatly decreased chance...if you can't understand this then you don't understand the complexity
of humans. We are not so easily categorizable, controllable, or predictable as so many yearn to believe, regardless of the various and unique mental
states and conditions, of which are dynamic in most people.
We should just ban everything and say that everyone is mentally unfit for life...I am willing to guarantee that many people would be wrong in their
assessment of others, namely their assessment of the probability that others will cause physical harm...it's just a bunch of paranoid bull# that has
got it's grip on a whole hell of a lot of people these days.

Don't even get me started on psychical harm...most people are guilty of it every day and aren't even very aware of it.