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posted on Jan, 22 2013 @ 07:19 PM
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I Mean , BEFORE the ZYGOTE Man.........LOL





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posted on Jan, 22 2013 @ 07:20 PM
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Originally posted by darkbake
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I think ATS is a fairly good indication of the direction our country is headed in, which is polarization and bitterness between people who are unwilling to consider each other's viewpoints.


Or, maybe there are plenty of us who have considered the other's viewpoints and found them false and destructive.

In my early life I was an avowed marxist member of the SDS(Students for a Democratic Society) that advocated the violent, revolutionary overthrow of the United States. And later found those principles to be false and destructive in a great many ways.



posted on Jan, 22 2013 @ 07:24 PM
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Originally posted by darkbake
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Exactly, and there are so many problems with our current legislative system ranging from earmarks, to complete lies about the intentions and contents of a bill, to politicians not even spending the time to read them, to politicians spending more time raking in cash and working on special interest projects than doing their job, to politicians being arrogant, it is a huge mess.

I mean we have politicians trying to make a difference, but how is that even possible when they don't have all the facts and almost all of what they hear themselves is misinformation?
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I am neither democrat or republican.

I am a Constitutionalist Conservative and am leary of Big Government statists on both sides of the political spectrum



posted on Jan, 22 2013 @ 07:25 PM
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Oh, on the basis that there are like a hundred different Christian deities being worshiped, as well as all of the ancient pantheons, and the Eastern religions, I mean...




1. Christianity 2.1 billion
2. Islam 1.3 billion
3. Secular/Irreligious/Agnostic/Atheist 1.1 billion
4. Hinduism 900 million
5. Chinese traditional religion 394 million
6. Buddhism 376 million (see also buddhism by country)
7. Primal indigenous 300 million
8. African traditional and diasporic 100 million
9. Sikhism 23 million
10. Juche 19 million
11. Spiritism 15 million
12. Judaism 14 million
13. Bahá'í Faith 7 million
14. Jainism 4.2 million
15. Shinto 4 million
16. Cao Dai 4 million
17. Zoroastrianism 2.6 million
18. Tenrikyo 2 million
19. Neopaganism 1 million
20. Unitarian Universalism 800,000 21. Rastafari movement 600,000





Abrahamic religions
A group of monotheistic traditions sometimes grouped with one another for comparative purposes, because all refer to a patriarch named Abraham.

Bábísm
Bahá'í
Bahá'í Faith
Orthodox Bahá'í Faith
Islam
Kharijites
Nation of Islam
Shiite
Alawites
Ismailis
Jafari
Zaiddiyah
Ghulat including
Alevi / Bektashi
Ahl-e Haqq
Yazidi
Druze
Ahmadi
Sunni
Berailvi
Deobandi
Hanafi
Hanbali
Maliki
Mu'tazili
Shafi'i
Wahhabi
Sufism
Naqshbandi
Bektashi
Chishti
Mevlevi
Zikri
Judaism (see also: Jew; Hebrews)
Contemporary divisions
Karaite Judaism
Rabbinic Judaism
Orthodox Judaism
Haredi Judaism
Hassidic Judaism
Modern Orthodox Judaism
Reform Judaism
Conservative Judaism (Masorti)
Reconstructionist Judaism (arguably not a religion)
Humanistic Judaism (arguably not a religion)
Historical Sects
Hasmoneans
Essenes
Pharisees
Sadducees
Zealots
Sicarii
sects that believed Jesus was a prophet
Ebionites
Elkasites
Nazarenes
Crypto-Jews
Marranos
Conversos
Christianity (see List of Christian denominations)
Eastern Orthodoxy
Roman Catholicism
Oriental Orthodoxy (Monophysitism)
Nestorianism
Protestantism
Anabaptists
Anglicans
Baptists
Lutherans
Methodists
Pentecostals
Reformed
Calvinism
Presbyterian
Religious Society of Friends (Quakers)
Unitarians
Waldensians
Latter-day Saints
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
Community of Christ
Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
Seventh-day Adventist
Jehovah's Witnesses
Messianic Judaism (not actually Judaism but rather Jewish-rite Christianity)
Samaritans
Mandaeanists
Rastafarians
Black Hebrews
Hebrew Christians




Dharmic religions
Religions with a concept of Dharma, also major religions of historical India

Hinduism (see also Contemporary Hindu movements)
Agama Hindu Dharma (Javanese Hinduism)
Shaivism
Shaktism
Smartism
Vaishnavism
Gaudiya Vaishnavism
ISKCON (Hare Krishna)
Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mission
Six major schools and movements of Hindu philosophy
Samkhya
Nyaya
Vaisheshika
Purva mimamsa
Vedanta (Uttar Mimamsa)
Advaita Vedanta
Integral Yoga
Yoga
Ashtanga Yoga
Hatha yoga
Siddha Yoga
Tantric Yoga
Ayyavazhi
Shramana Religions
Buddhism (see Schools of Buddhism)
Mahayana
Nikaya schools (which have historically been called Hinayana in the West)
Theravada
Vajrayana (Tantric Buddhism)
Jainism
Digambara
Shvetambara
Panth Religions
Sikhism
Kabir Panth
Dadu Panth




Other revealed religions
Believers in one God, also called classical monotheism, who follow an Indo-European culture of belief, philosophy and angelology.

Zoroastrianism
Magus (see Three Wise Men)
Gnosticism
Basilidians
Bogomils
Borborites
Cainites
Carpocratians
Cathars
Marcionism (not entirely Gnostic)
Ophites
Valentinians (see Valentinius)
Hinduism (Vaishnavism)




Indigenous religions
The orally transmitted canon of indigenous peoples, many involving some variant of animism and many defunct

African religions
Akamba mythology
Akan mythology
Ashanti mythology
Bushongo mythology
Bwiti
Dahomey mythology
Dinka mythology
Efik mythology
Egyptian mythology
Ibo mythology
Isoko mythology
Khoikhoi mythology
Lotuko mythology
Lugbara mythology
Pygmy mythology
Tumbuka mythology
Yoruba mythology
Zulu mythology
African religions in the New World
Kumina
Obeah
Santería (Lukumi)
Vodou
Candomblé
Macumba
Umbanda and Quimbanda
Xango
European religions
Anglo-Saxon mythology
Basque mythology
Druidry (Celtic Religion)
Finnish mythology
Germanic paganism
Norse mythology
Greek religion
Greek mythology
Mystery religions
Eleusinian Mysteries
Mithraism
Pythagoreanism
Roman religion
Roman mythology
Slavic mythology
Asian religions
Babylonian and Assyrian religion
Babylonian mythology
Chaldean mythology
Sumerian mythology
Bön (Indigenous Tibetan belief)
Chinese mythology
Shinto
Oomoto
Tengrism



posted on Jan, 22 2013 @ 07:25 PM
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So I'm just using simple math to decide on the probability of one of those religions being correct, and placing it as less than 1%. Unfortunately, I ran out of room to quote all of them and provide my source, and I was going to add in different political ideologies as well.

But here is my source
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posted on Jan, 22 2013 @ 07:28 PM
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Very good! To be honest, we need more people like you, because you have experience on both sides of the isle and understand the different perspectives you know?



posted on Jan, 22 2013 @ 07:28 PM
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Well , Religions are like Butt Cracks I Guess , Ya Know , Unfortunately We All Got One,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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posted on Jan, 22 2013 @ 07:30 PM
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Originally posted by darkbake
reply to post by kosmicjack
 


I agree the country is moving forward


The question with that bumper-sticker slogan is "Forward into WHAT?"

I can assure you that what Obama means by "forward" is forward into marxism. Obama was raised by marxists, his mentors such as Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorhn are avowed marxists, former members of the SDS-Weather Underground. I knew them in the early 70s as a member of the SDS myself.

I know how these people think and what their goals are, and how they manipulate terminology to deceive people.



posted on Jan, 22 2013 @ 07:31 PM
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Originally posted by Zanti Misfit
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Well , Religions are like Butt Cracks I Guess , Ya Know , Unfortunately We All Got One,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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But only one can be true.



posted on Jan, 22 2013 @ 07:34 PM
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Originally posted by JuniorBeauchamp

Originally posted by Zanti Misfit
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Well , Religions are like Butt Cracks I Guess , Ya Know , Unfortunately We All Got One,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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But only one can be true.
Really, only one?

Funny, the Meat and Potatoes of Most Religions are the Same.

Ok, Junior, How bout you tell me which one...



posted on Jan, 22 2013 @ 07:37 PM
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Would you kindly do me a favor?

Would you please use the quote feature so I know what you are responding to instead of having to go back through the posts to find mine that seems to fit?



posted on Jan, 22 2013 @ 07:39 PM
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Originally posted by Tw0Sides

Originally posted by JuniorBeauchamp

Originally posted by Zanti Misfit
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Well , Religions are like Butt Cracks I Guess , Ya Know , Unfortunately We All Got One,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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But only one can be true.
Really, only one?[/quote

Yes, only one.

They all claim to be the true one, but they can't all be true. Only one can. There is a thing called "truth", absolute truth.


Funny, the Meat and Potatoes of Most Religions are the Same.


Really?

Explain to me how they are.

Be specific.



posted on Jan, 22 2013 @ 07:41 PM
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Originally posted by JuniorBeauchamp

Originally posted by Zanti Misfit
reply to post by darkbake
 


Well , Religions are like Butt Cracks I Guess , Ya Know , Unfortunately We All Got One,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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But only one can be true.


More than likely, all of them have some truth to them, but none of them are completely true. That is the benefit of being understanding of other viewpoints.

For example, people who study multiple disciplines in college can begin to see connections between them and new opportunities. I studied both physics and psychology, and it allowed me insights that those who didn't study both don't have.

I also studied math and music, which compliment each other well.

To be honest, I think there is nothing more beneficial to an individual than immersing themselves in completely different perspectives on life for a few years at a time.

Not only does it help you to realize that there are other legitimate viewpoints out there, it helps you understand that the culture where you live is just one of many, and gives you the freedom to realize your full potential outside of preconceived limits -

In addition to this MAJOR advantage, it allows you to begin assembling together a bigger, more accurate picture of how to live a healthy lifestyle.
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posted on Jan, 22 2013 @ 07:42 PM
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Originally posted by JuniorBeauchamp

Originally posted by Zanti Misfit
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Well , Religions are like Butt Cracks I Guess , Ya Know , Unfortunately We All Got One,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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But only one can be true.



How You Figure >?



posted on Jan, 22 2013 @ 07:43 PM
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Originally posted by darkbake
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Very good! To be honest, we need more people like you, because you have experience on both sides of the isle and understand the different perspectives you know?


What I would suggest you do is to actually read and study the Declaration of Independence and Constitution, as well as the writings of the framers of the Constitution and founding fathers of this country, such as Jefferson, Madison, John Adams and see what they said about the principles they relied on and what they meant by the terms they used and why they framed the Constitution and Bill of Rights in the manner they did.

They were for liberty of the individual FIRST, and against the tyranny of Big Government Statists.



posted on Jan, 22 2013 @ 07:44 PM
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Originally posted by Zanti Misfit

Originally posted by JuniorBeauchamp

Originally posted by Zanti Misfit
reply to post by darkbake
 


Well , Religions are like Butt Cracks I Guess , Ya Know , Unfortunately We All Got One,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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But only one can be true.



How You Figure >?


Is 2+2=4 true?



posted on Jan, 22 2013 @ 07:45 PM
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Thanks, I have a reading list, I will definitely add those to it. Also, any particular suggestions on outside reading in order to gain insight into the intentions of the founding fathers?



posted on Jan, 22 2013 @ 07:48 PM
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Originally posted by JuniorBeauchamp

Originally posted by Zanti Misfit

Originally posted by JuniorBeauchamp

Originally posted by Zanti Misfit
reply to post by darkbake
 


Well , Religions are like Butt Cracks I Guess , Ya Know , Unfortunately We All Got One,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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But only one can be true.



How You Figure >?


Is 2+2=4 true?


Yes, but I used math to show how low the probability was that Christianity was the one true faith...



posted on Jan, 22 2013 @ 07:48 PM
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Originally posted by darkbake

Originally posted by JuniorBeauchamp

Originally posted by Zanti Misfit
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Well , Religions are like Butt Cracks I Guess , Ya Know , Unfortunately We All Got One,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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But only one can be true.


More than likely, all of them have some truth to them


Of course they all have some truth. Even tyrants tell some truth mixed in with their lies.


but none of them are completely true.


How do you know that absolutely?


That is the benefit of being understanding of other viewpoints.


Not all "viewpoints" are equivalent in truth.



To be honest, I think there is nothing more beneficial to an individual than immersing themselves in completely different perspectives on life for a few years at a time.


So long as the quest is for the truth.

Contrary to the popular belief today, there is such a thing as absolute truth.


Not only does it help you to realize that there are other legitimate viewpoints out there


I prefer what is true over "viewpoints", which are nothing more than opinions.



posted on Jan, 22 2013 @ 07:49 PM
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Originally posted by JuniorBeauchamp
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Would you kindly do me a favor?

Would you please use the quote feature so I know what you are responding to instead of having to go back through the posts to find mine that seems to fit?



Sure, I'll do that from now on! You can also click on the post I replied to, as I did use the reply feature.
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