Beekeepers Expect "Worst Year For Bees, We’re Facing The Extinction Of A Species.” , page 2


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reply posted on 22-1-2013 @ 06:11 PM by burntheships
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Sarcasm, well said there.
Sometimes it drives it home, does it not!



reply posted on 22-1-2013 @ 06:15 PM by antar
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In the last couple of days, there’s been a sharp turn toward the status quo. As I reported yesterday, Obama plucked Islam “Isi” Siddiqui from the nation’s most powerful agrichemical lobby group and made him our chief negotiator on ag issues in global trade talks. This is a major coup for Big Ag. Ramming open foreign markets for our cheap food commodities and pricey ag inputs is critical to the industry’s future profits–and perilous for global food security and the environment.

And today, Obama’s Big Ag side got the best of him again. He tapped Roger Beachy, long-time president of the Danforth Plant Science Center, as chief of the USDA’s newly created National Institute of Food and Agriculture (NIFA).


grist.org...

The USDA approved Monsanto's corn even though it received only 23 comments in favor of it and nearly 45,000 public comments opposing it. It can now be freely released into the environment and American food supply, without any governmental oversight or safety tracking.

"This is just the latest in a string of approvals of GE crops. It's clear the Obama Administration doesn't have the courage to stand strong against the powerful agribusiness and biotechnology lobbies," says Mark Kastel, of The Cornucopia Institute.

Dow's 2,4-D

As for 2,4-D, a key ingredient in "Agent Orange," which was used to defoliate forests and croplands during the Vietnam War, it's widely associated with increased cancer risks. Four US studies report a correlation with its use and non-Hodgkin lymphoma, for example.

Researchers find that babies born in areas where high rates of 2,4-D are applied to farms are 60-90% more likely to be born with birth defects, especially if they're conceived in the spring, when application rates are highest.


www.sustainablebusiness.com...

These are the very same crops that bee's are dying from, is it any wonder?


reply posted on 22-1-2013 @ 06:21 PM by antar
Originally posted by intrptr
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post by Danbones


I have noticed a distinct decline in the local bee population but the wasps seem OK.
so the cause is not something effecting wasps much.

Typically wasps are carnivores. Bees eat the nectar and frequent the crops where the pesticides are used. Wasps are searching for insects more than pollen. If you see wasps in the fields it is because that is where they find the bugs for their brood. They don't seek the flowers and wallow in their pollen or feed it to their young. They are not more immune, just exposed less than the bees to toxins.


] You make important points, I was wondering if they would come in to the rescue if the bee's completely died off. It would be a better bet to hand pollinate than to rely upon what little may stick to them and be dropped onto other plants...


reply posted on 22-1-2013 @ 06:25 PM by woodsmom
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And stop swatting them, as someone else pointed out!
I get weird looks from people all the time for sticking up for them too.

The clover is actually a good point, not only are the pesticides doing their damage, so are the herbicides.
Too many people will dump weed and feed for a pretty lawn and destroy real food in favor of an invasive species, that probably doesn't like it's adopted environment to begin with. I know people who are actually harassed for some clover growing in their lawn, and they have the prettiest yard on the block in my humble opinion.

Last year I noticed the same thing as many other posters, the wasps are more plentiful. I have wondered if they are moving into the bee hives. I only had bumble bees around my yard for the first 2 months of the season before the honey bees finally started to show, and when they did they were already so far and few between that we got excited every time we saw one.

Antar raised a good point about cross contamination as well, it could well mean that our heirlooms may even be tainted. I figure any positive action has to be better than nothing though, and I really hope mine happen to be far enough in the woods to be safer. I have also come across building plans for a wild bee hive. This thread has guaranteed it's construction this year. For anyone interested, I found it in Mother Earth News a few years ago, I don't remember what issue though, I will go look for it.

Nevermind on the plans.... that is the worst part of being a hardcopy person, sometimes I just can't find a specific article when I search for it. Sorry
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reply posted on 22-1-2013 @ 06:42 PM by burntheships
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Good points, really. Perhaps the forests can be a bee refuge, might
need it if this keeps up. Good to know too, for those who live in wooded areas,
as some of us do!


reply posted on 22-1-2013 @ 06:56 PM by antar
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Watching now, I do love to learn, have had to hand pollinate for a few years myself, the trick is getting it done before the bee's carry the gmo dust over from neighboring farms. My corn looked like something out of Deliverance 2 years ago, weird weird weird!

This is the only way to keep the GMO off your garden veggies!

blog.seedalliance.org...
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reply posted on 22-1-2013 @ 07:05 PM by intrptr
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] You make important points, I was wondering if they would come in to the rescue if the bee's completely died off. It would be a better bet to hand pollinate than to rely upon what little may stick to them and be dropped onto other plants...

Wasps do pollinate when searching for bugs, I guess. Their wings push the pollen round in the air and it does stick to them. But their actions are not directed at pollination, it is circumstantial. They kill pests. Thats their job. A healthy garden has a ton of wasps buzzing around it. They are natural pesticide.

On pollination by hand? The Chinese are barely able to pollinate their apple pear crop from year to year. It takes hundreds of people on ladders gathering the pollen and "brushing' it onto every flower. Every flower. We take it for granted that busy little bees do this for us all_day_long. There are not enough people on the planet to make up for that. Heres a look...

Chinese hand pollination of crops

Some plants don't need help, like corn for instance. A gentle breeze is all the plant needs. I don't have a list of self pollinators, others might have better data on the crops we depend on bees for.
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