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Originally posted by Skyfloating
This thread opens with a question: Do you think masonic rituals have a short-term or long-term effect on mind, body and spirit? And if so, what effect
on the conscious or subconscious mind, body or spirit might that be? Ive asked a similar question to many masons in live settings and get a wide
variety of answers. The more spiritual among masons speak in terms of effects of "energy", "aura", "inner power", "charge". Others speak of
psychological effects. And the less spiritually inclined say there are no effects other than improved ability to memorize or hold lectures. Are
masonic rituals similar to rituals of magic or do they more resemble theater plays or none of the above?
I invite masons and non-masons to share their views.
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Hello Skyfloating, (BTW, Yud, the symbol of creation and the metaphysical, one and indivisible. By far my favorite.)
What an interesting topic you have brought up and thanks for the invite to non-masons as I am not a Freemason.
I was thinking about Masonry just the other day. I always think about masonry and what it could be. I read the minutes and poems and after while i
became to realize that for a group of people that disagree so much with each other you sure do got each others back pretty solid. I mean you guys
genuinely will takeoff the shirts off you backs for one another but your at odds with just about everything. Like real brothers.
I can only speculate but to me it seems that there is something about masonry that makes you family. You guys know something that binds you to one
another close enough that you guys are yourselves to one another.
The could come the rituals you guys do, I have no idea but, man I'l tell ya, when you have no idea about something the mind can come up with some
really cool stuff. Like you mentioned three different types of responses to your questions from Masons, everyone is on a different level, sees life
from different angels but somehow you guys know how to be able to all come together on one level, on the level.
I'm reading a book, on 6 steps for writing a good them and the dude in the book tells a story about how he learned to swim. he said everyone gave him
their advise told him to swim this way, that way, try this and that and for the life of him he could not learn how to swim. One day at the shallow end
of a pool a friend of his noticed he could not swim. He told him to hold his breath, close his eyes if he wanted to, lay face down in the water and
try to sink. He found there was no way for him to sink, he could not do it. His friend then told him to just hold out his hand and kick his feet until
he reached the end of the pool. He learned how to swim that day but needed much practice after that of course. This story is just one aspect of what I
imagine on the level to mean. A root, a core, a base everyone can understand.
Then comes the degrees and from what I understand from each degree a ritual. just like actually perfecting a stroke or a dive in swimming after
learning you "can't sink so just kick your feet". And just like and swimmer in a pool Freemasons know that you can still drowned so when a Mason
needs help he will find it.
When you think about it life, this life is a swim. we are swimming through the universe and this universe is as deep as our minds will allow though
the sciences and our spirit, mind and the Holy. It all talks to us on different levels from "night time bed time, day time wake up" to "quantum
physics". The sun and moon tell us when to plant crops and when to harvest and shelter. Every answer to everything is out there in one shape or form
right in front of our noses but it has to pass through our mind and we filter and sift through everything with our not to sharp minds.
knowledge is magic, it is power and responsibility. It is guarded by the natural order of things and it can only be accessed by those who are able.
Answers are with in as they are with out, mind, spirit and the holy, I believe this is what "you get out what you put in" means.
Do you think masonic rituals have a short-term or long-term effect on mind, body and spirit?
And if so, what effect on the conscious or subconscious mind, body or spirit might that be?
You guys deal in things that are immeasurable. The rituals are the passing of knowledge, of tools, you learn things that have no describable words.
You learn a craft, and build not only outside but within because why drown when you can't even sink.
Thanks for the chat, I love talking about this stuff and it's as close as I'll get to being at lodge so it appreciated.