4th Amendment - I am just in utter disbelief of this (older) video and wonder if it has been discus, page


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reply posted on 22-1-2013 @ 06:01 AM by hellobruce
Originally posted by dianashay
I am just in total shock and disgust,

The blatant stuidity and arrogance of these two 'govt employees' is beyond belief.


You know nothing.
en.wikipedia.org...

Shows she had a right to be there....

"The local health officer or designee may order what is reasonable and necessary for prevention and suppression of disease and in all reasonable and necessary ways protect the public health.” As it turns out Julie has good cause to be on the property. The owner, Ray Kirkus, was apparently building an illegal septic tank which was leaking into local resident drinking water supply. Ray’s case was tossed out and he later issued an “SOS” to the “Indiana Militia.” "


raimundas kirkus v. la porte county health dept. cause # 46A04-0603-CV-141  7-28-06 DISMISSED



reply posted on 22-1-2013 @ 06:16 AM by OmegaLogos
reply to post by hellobruce



Explanation: So what .. she still should of gotten a warrant!

Personal Disclosure: It is the issue of the warrant ... or the lack there off ... that was the defining issue of the video.

Until she got a warrant ... she was illegally trespassing!


reply posted on 22-1-2013 @ 06:21 AM by 11235813213455
Originally posted by hellobruce
Originally posted by dianashay
I am just in total shock and disgust,

The blatant stuidity and arrogance of these two 'govt employees' is beyond belief.


You know nothing.
en.wikipedia.org...

Shows she had a right to be there....

"The local health officer or designee may order what is reasonable and necessary for prevention and suppression of disease and in all reasonable and necessary ways protect the public health.” As it turns out Julie has good cause to be on the property. The owner, Ray Kirkus, was apparently building an illegal septic tank which was leaking into local resident drinking water supply. Ray’s case was tossed out and he later issued an “SOS” to the “Indiana Militia.” "


raimundas kirkus v. la porte county health dept. cause # 46A04-0603-CV-141  7-28-06 DISMISSED


Fair enough if this information is correct.

I think that the part that people have a problem with is the lack of proper identification, paperwork, and procedure. The only identification she had was a work badge that didn't have her full name on it and she refused to identify herself when the property owner demanded it.

Now, I understand she has a job to do but rights do not need to be trampled to do it. Proper declaration of purpose through official documentation and identification needs to be presented to the property owner.
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