Shock claim: Obama only wants military leaders who 'will fire on U.S. citizens', page 14


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reply posted on 27-1-2013 @ 10:11 AM by Symbiot
reply to post by CosmicCitizen



Riots in the streets don't just happen over night, you've gotta stoke the fire until people are fed up with their government. Not that it matters to me, don't care for either government.

Besides if Obama wants military leaders who will fire upon American citizens then he must figure he's going to need them to fire upon American citizens at some point.

And really, just because the Russians are fueling the flames doesn't mean the US government hasn't earned themselves a hearty rebellion. America has acquired quite a few enemies over the years, I'm sure there are plenty of foreign governments that are more than happy to help move things along.
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reply posted on 2-2-2013 @ 12:18 AM by charlyv
Originally posted by crankyoldman
I am shocked by the remarkable connotative dissonance that goes on with the folks that claim, "oh, the military won't fire on Americans," or even question the idea. To say this defies all the evidence to the contrary!

Police do it every single day!!!!!!!!!

The police folks entrusted to "protect" kill a shocking number of their wards everyday, with impunity, because they are told to. The military folks are paid NOT TO THINK, but to simply act on orders. The whole code of "chain of command" is all about making sure the grunt at the bottom with the gun shoots at whoever, and wherever, the hidden hand says to. This is the ENTIRE POINT OF THE MILITARY! The military isn't a system based on moral and spiritual consideration in the moment. but one based on killing. from the Crusades to Vietnam where "military" righteously killed the bad guys, to Stalin, Pot, Mao, where the military killed no one but their own families and countrymen it happens all the time.

Of course this will happen, without issue, without protest, without any hint of opposition. It has happened, does happen, and will happen. Men with guns kill, that is why the have guns, men with guns told to kill, kill, that's why there were given the guns.

This means the "litmus" test is not only reasonable, it is justified.

Another person that did not live it, but suspects it based on un-experienced rhetoric. The people that are going to save this patch of land are the ones that know where the reality ends and the bull# starts.



reply posted on 3-2-2013 @ 01:49 AM by Scooter591
reply to post by Transitarian



I used to have that mindset as well. I had wanted to join, yet my thought process was one of hatred for Muslims because I was a Christian. After I dropped my belief system I no longer see all Muslims as bad.

However, I do agree that people who would join just because they want to kill someone are more likely going to kill you if they are ordered to.
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