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"If you put a label on genetically engineered food you might as well put a skull and crossbones on it." - Norman Braksick, president of Asgrow Seed Co., a subsidiary of Monsanto, quoted in the Kansas City Star, March 7, 1994
Originally posted by speculativeoptimist
Wow now that is a strawman if I ever saw one. We are just asking for identification, not a list of potential side effects or principle issues. If they are so concerned with public opinion, then why not educate us and assure us that their families and children eat this stuff with no concern whatsoever.
Originally posted by burntheships
Originally posted by pianopraze
It's called eugenics, and did not begin or end in Nazi Germany.
I was looking for the pre Nazi connection,
can you jog my memory? Thanks in advance.
Originally posted by stillwind
reply to post by muzzleflash
Sorry, but you were right to start with. There is absolutely no chance that a cauliflower virus could cause disease in a human. Zero, nada, zilch.
The entire GMO scam is perpetrated by people who don't have the slightest idea of what they are talking about, or it is being sold to said crowd.
Step away from the stupid.
Originally posted by hadriana
I follow white house event menus closely...they always eat organic...most likely non GMOs b/c they eat unusual types of plants and special breeds of grass fed beef, stuff like that.
Originally posted by VitriolAndAngst
I'd have to learn more about this -- but this virus might not be "hidden" so much as PART OF the genetic transcoding process. Instead of injecting a command to "reproduce more of the virus" the virus injects the new DNA sequence.
This case could be more about mistaking what is already there and benign.
However, the process of genetic alteration doesn't simply "add a new gene" it does effect more of the DNA than the target (or so I've read).
The one thing we DO KNOW for certain about some GMO crops; namely Corn, Wheat, and Soy -- is that they cause the stomach lining to get thicker, reducing absorption. I forget the direct mechanism that forces the thickening, but it's similar to what happens with some artificial sweeteners. As many cancers are related to chronic inflammation.
Two thirds of GM crops approved in the US contain the hitherto unidentified viral gene.
GM crops have been given commercially attractive properties - such as weedkiller or pest resistance - by having new genes inserted.
These genes are usually taken from species with which the crop could not breed naturally.
Last night Pete Riley of the GM Freeze pressure group said: “This discovery of this previously unidentified gene in GM crops raises serious concern about the safety of GM food and feed.
"It totally undermines claims that GM technology is safe, precise and predictable.
“The very existence of Gene VI has been missed for many years, so we don’t know what implications it might have.
"It is impossible to say if this has already resulted in harm to human or animal health, and since there is still no GM labelling in places like the US where GM is more common in the diet, no epidemiological studies can be carried out.
Originally posted by chiefsmom
So, is it even possible to completely avoid GM? Unfortunately, I just don't see how, as much as I would love to
Farmers in America did well out of the New Deal. The farmers of America did not prosper in the so-called Roaring Twenties.
They were simply too successful in that they produced far too much for the American market. With western Europe as a market effectively closed to them as a result of a tariff war, the farmers could only sell in America. Too much product for too few people caused prices to plummet.
Farmers had to sell to whoever would offer a price for their goods. Bankruptcy followed bankruptcy among farmers in the mid-West.
The Hoover administration had done little to help the farmers. Hoover’s "prosperity is just around the corner" must have sounded very hollow to mid-West farmers. The attack and attempted lynching of a judge by Iowan farmers in April 1933 (he was signing eviction orders to be served on farmers) lead to the Governor of Iowa putting the state under martial law. Roosevelt had to be seen to be doing something as for nearly 13 years the federal government had done little to assist the farmers.
Originally posted by burntheships
reply to post by neo96
Wow Neo, hard to think you really mean that.
Where was GMO 20 years ago? Still in the labs,
sure not everything was organic, but it was sustainable.
Remember back in the day The U.S. Farmer was subsidixed by The Feds,
who paid them to throw away food to keep prices high enough?
Originally posted by neo96
Who paid them?
The government and their agencies the FDA and their regulations.