Yahweh = Satan. They have you worshiping evil.

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posted on Aug, 31 2013 @ 05:21 PM
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Since I know they are wrong in their premise, and I also know they could care less, it does mean they are stupid.. Stupid is when you are ignorant, and you don't care.. The people trashing God are in fact ignorant, and they couldn't care less, which does make them incredibly stupid...

This isn't an opinion, it is an observation of the reality of the situation...

When a group of people say "Our Father" that group is claiming he is theirs, as in, he is their father.. They aren't saying anything about there being more than one of anything.. Is English not your first language?

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posted on Aug, 31 2013 @ 06:07 PM
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Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
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Ooooooo... the boogie man's coming for you! You better repent!

Stop threatening people with imaginary places.


Here is something most do not realize, whatever they envision for themselves in an afterlife, they manifest. Not for others as in "hell damnation"; they will actually create it as an alternative. If they fear hell more than they love heaven, guess where they will go, to their own amusement park of jolly confused funsterisms, trickery (by their own minds). The imaginary place becomes realism (not for anyone other than themselves). Its actually a very interesting system of implied thought becomes an applied dynamic, not at all physical as in this gross matter world but just as vibrant and "real" because it is an ETERNITY for the spirit (or seems so until your higher self smacks you upside the head with this "what were you thinking" and pulls you out of it). Once again the wheel of Karma affects its motion and back you go to live again as human to fix the mess you continue to create for yourself.
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posted on Sep, 1 2013 @ 10:35 AM
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Originally posted by alienreality
Since I know they are wrong in their premise, and I also know they could care less, it does mean they are stupid.. Stupid is when you are ignorant, and you don't care..


Well, we don't know if they actually care about seeking truth or not. We can only make assumptions. From my point of view, if they cared to do research on god, whether or not they came to the conclusion that a god exists or not, it would mean that they care. If they didn't care they wouldn't have done any research at all.

But of course, this is only "my" assumption, just like you have yours. We can't truly know what a person was feeling inside in regard to whether they cared or not.


Originally posted by alienreality
When a group of people say "Our Father" that group is claiming he is theirs, as in, he is their father.. They aren't saying anything about there being more than one of anything.. Is English not your first language?


Yes, English is my first language and I understand the difference between "singular" and "plural".

"I" is singular, "We" is plural.
"My" is singular, "Our" is plural.

"Our Father" is the plural form of "My Father". If a person says "Our" father, that means that they are a child of the father, but there are also other children of the father - otherwise they would have said "My" father and not "Our".

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posted on Sep, 24 2013 @ 09:07 PM
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Very interesting take on the exodus.

I disagree tho, because of the Exodus.

The bad ones enjoy centralized power. Easier manipulate us.

Yahweh left the Ancient Hebrew with a Council of Elders, not a King!



posted on Sep, 25 2013 @ 10:17 AM
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Isn't GOD the ultimate, all powerful "Central Government"?....Oooooh, those evil centralized governments and monetary systems with money that literally has "In God We Trust" written right on it...

How do threads like this just drag on and on?, it's just people referring to old texts, conditioning from basically the day one is born by parents and church, pretending to express their opinion on things that are no more than "Faith" through ignorance.

You see?, if you only look backwards a little bit, you find some pretty horrendous things were done in the name of God. Oh, it must have been a misunderstanding, oh, they were uneducated and didn't know, oh, they didn't have the technology or knowledge we have now,...

Oh, I must be #ing stupid and evil because I don't believe the same stupid fairy tales as you. Oh, and that constitution thingamabob was written to nullify religious control and domination of the U.S. way back when the founders realized how dangerous religion really is.

I came to the realization that we just may be worshipping evil a long time ago all by myself. How is it that one can do the most horrible things imaginable and be forgiven?, well, to allow the evil to thrive by using some imaginary all powerful figment of mass-imagination to be used as a scapegoat, to justify the evil deed, to do evil things "in the name of God".

Look at my posting history, I usually don't make the mistake of participating in stupid religious threads.
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posted on Sep, 25 2013 @ 10:49 AM
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My partner led me to this incredible account spiritlessons.com... which not only reveals the truth but also the workings of evil in this world. Do not dismiss the fact that there is a battle being waged over your soul, over all our souls even though you cannot see it with your eyes. If you want the truth all you have to do is ask HIM. If you think that truth can be ascertained via your own rationale basing it upon this thickly veiled world of lies and mirages than only error awaits leading ultimately to fatal destruction.

The father of all lies wants us to believe that The Word is false because as long as he can keep you from reading it and nourishing your soul with 'the living waters' than he will have not only power but the power to steal your soul.

If anything I see that you are falling for one of the oldest lies (if not The oldest) that the enemy manipulated to make it appear hidden so upon its discovery it would lend credence to its very lie sending all on a wild goose chase of reverse knowledge. Traps lay everywhere.........but The Living Word is not only our armor but the living food for our souls and minds. Without The Word we are prey to a world of snares in all manner of deceptions leading to our eventual destruction. The Word is a profound Living mystery.

The oldest lie is to make you believe that you don't need to be saved and that Satan the fallen angel with his legions don't exist.

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posted on Sep, 25 2013 @ 01:38 PM
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Shapeshifter Jesus FTW!!

Hail to the supreme alien being!!



posted on Sep, 25 2013 @ 02:19 PM
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Egyptia


The oldest lie is to make you believe that you don't need to be saved and that Satan the fallen angel with his legions don't exist.

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As a Christian, I have a tough time getting people to understand this



posted on Sep, 25 2013 @ 07:57 PM
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study Job selflessness, one cannot be truly and completely and totally be selfless until death..david bowie...I try



posted on Sep, 25 2013 @ 08:15 PM
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God is good.
Devils are evil.

Nobody's fooling me.

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posted on Sep, 25 2013 @ 08:19 PM
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So now, I die listening to Elton John, the music of my youth, something saved my life tonight shouldn't have been, but no not really, I died a long time ago.



posted on Sep, 25 2013 @ 08:30 PM
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Whats the conspiracy here? Its that billions of people have been brainwashed into believing that evil is good, and good is evil, and would be willing to die to defend their false notions. What better way to divide the people than to make them into walking contradictions, thinking they are doing good, when they are really doing evil? They have the people unwittingly divided at their very most core level; themselves.


It would almost be beautiful if it wasn't so damn cruel. There's this other thread where a retired PSYOP agent is offering to give us the skinny on the whole shebang. Pretty nice eh? *eye's rolling*

Funny how government emulates the same exact behavior and also how these same governments always attach themselves to the hip of religion using it always. Even when there is supposedly a separation, yeah sure.....we are ruled by evil have have been slaves all this time. What makes it great for our captors is most of us don't have the faintest idea.



posted on Sep, 25 2013 @ 08:37 PM
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Well now how did this happen?

Begins with the Sabbath, GEN, chapter 2.

There were only 6 days of creation, the 7th day starts a new chapter and from there onward, the "LORD" GOD goes around being a dick.

We must still love him, but love doesn't have to agree with his ways, just forgive him...move on. That is for our own good.



posted on Sep, 26 2013 @ 12:22 AM
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Hmmm, on occasion, people can actually comprehend their predominant language aside from the dimwit English business one ....



posted on Sep, 27 2013 @ 12:36 AM
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Not quite. Satan goes way back before the bible even existed. This is because Saturn = Satan. All the way back to the Phoenicians, and Saturn/Satan represents/is time. Saturn is also represented with the color purple. The pope has a history of wearing purple and Jesus was wrapped in a purple robe to humiliate him before they led him out to crucify him. Mark 15:17 "and they clothed him in purple, and platted a crown of thorns, and put it about his head"

Begin @ the 18-minute mark to see where Saturn comes into play


Or just Google Saturn is Satan.



posted on Oct, 9 2013 @ 12:37 PM
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The greatest lie was convincing people Lucifer is Satan when really he is just an "angel" of the devil... so the devil keeps his "angels" fighting against him so that people can be confused and think these are fallen angels against god, when they are really fallen angels doing a staged fight against Satan to confuse


God doesn t "fight". Only satan needs that type of energy. What better way than to cause division and cobfusion amongst his own followers.



posted on Oct, 9 2013 @ 05:13 PM
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Just re: "Treat the way You want to be treated" There are those that are called "masochist" who enjoy getting their balls in a vice, | don't like that. Hows about "treating others as | would treat MySelf"



posted on Oct, 9 2013 @ 06:30 PM
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LewisStulePhD
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Just re: "Treat the way You want to be treated" There are those that are called "masochist" who enjoy getting their balls in a vice, | don't like that. Hows about "treating others as | would treat MySelf"



posted on Dec, 4 2013 @ 08:01 PM
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Amazing theory, I haven't been able to get this out of my head!



posted on Dec, 4 2013 @ 08:38 PM
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CaticusMaximus
As I see it, Yahweh, the god of the bible, is in fact none other than the Great Deceiver himself, Satan. A far cry from the loving and compassionate god that his deceived followers claim he is, the bible pretty much says he is an ego-maniacal god of war and tyranny who if not obeyed, claims he will send you into eternal torture. He rules via fear and intimidation as tyrants do. He requires death for the smallest of infractions, and even demands the murder of entire cities/nations for arbitrary reasons.

Yet he has managed to garner billions of followers on this world who give him tribute in the form of worship, prayer and sacrifice, ie: energy, and they all believe he is a merciful and loving god, when the facts say otherwise.

Who else could pull off a stunt like this of such enormity but the Father of Lies himself?

Even more to the credit of this intelligence, it has even gotten the world to demonize the one who made a stand and attempted to overthrow the tyrant, and was even perhaps partially successful: Lucifer. Lucifer is reviled in most religions that recognize him as an entity, but their beliefs rely on the false premise that he was attempting to overthrow a merciful and loving god, when in fact the opposite was clearly the case. He was making a stand for the freedom of a people, knowing that he would receive little to no credit whatsoever.

Look at the story of the garden... the story is a big allegory of course, but allegorical for what, exactly? It was Lucifer who brought knowledge to Adam and Eve, and showed them the bondage of ignorance they were restrained in. As Lucifer can be translated from Greek as "Bringer of Dawn", it is fitting to call the garden story the allegory of humanitys long night in the darkness of ignorance, and the "Bringer of Dawn" who signaled the impending rising of the light, and the banishing of the dark.

Any wonder why Yahweh got mad? Just like our own tyrannical governments of this day and age, an informed and educated people were/are this entities worst enemy. Lucifer broke Yahwehs monopoly/dominance over and control of information.

But instead of recognizing this, the vast majority believes Lucifer is a demon, and some deluded ones even worship him as such.

Its interesting to look at how the same tactics of deception are still in use today, and that indeed nothing much has changed in evils play book of covering up the truth. Blatant lies, propaganda, information control and the obfuscation of the truth by mixing it with disinformation, all tactics currently in heavy use in the tyrannical government regimes around the globe, including all of the West, have their methods rooted in ancient times.

They would have you believe black is white, up is down, and 2+2=5; for millennia this has been the case, and it has been successful, and only very recently is this being challenged by people in any significant numbers.

Also:

Christians might claim they worship Jesus, not Yahweh. Perhaps they do, but why do they worship someone who clearly did not seek the peoples worship, nor wanted to be anyones leader? It is clear Jesus wanted one thing: not worship, but for the people to emulate his behavior, to be LIKE him, not to think him a god and beg him for free stuff. Thats the OLD way, which he came to uproot. He called us his friends and siblings, NOT his minions and serfs.

Unfortunately, it hasnt been uprooted that well... instead of the people thinking for themselves about his words, they depend on an authority, controlled by the same evil that would or does have them all worshiping a clearly genocidal maniac, to read the words, interpret them, and then spoon feed them the meaning.

I might say Jesus and Lucifer are one in the same. Wouldnt it be ironic, but strangely sensical that the original Bringer of Dawn, demonized through out the ages, who expects nothing in return, would come back to further assist knowing he would probably be murdered by those he was trying to save?

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Whats the conspiracy here? Its that billions of people have been brainwashed into believing that evil is good, and good is evil, and would be willing to die to defend their false notions. What better way to divide the people than to make them into walking contradictions, thinking they are doing good, when they are really doing evil? They have the people unwittingly divided at their very most core level; themselves.

Its also that theyve got you believing the truth is complicated through years of mandatory indoctrination at school.

Its not.

Set the mountains of manure in the 3,000 page "holy" book ablaze, and after the fire dies and the wind scatters the ashes some tiny precious gems will remain steadfast and eternal, outliving the convolution and obfuscation of what they were buried under.

"Treat others as you would be treated" is the first gem, and most powerful IMO.

"Love your neighbor as yourself" is the second.

There is nothing else we need to know or exercise to reveal the truth, and come out of the illusion. Those two things are so simple... so precise! Think of what they include, but also, perhaps even more importantly, think of what they EXCLUDE. Any mention of worshiping anyone? Any mention of what KIND of neighbor to love? Any mention of exceptions to WHO should be treated as you would like to be?

So stop worshiping Yahweh/Satan. You are giving your energy to evil. Stop worshiping Jesus. He wants you to emulate his actions, not be smug and complacent because you think youve got a free ticket to heaven.

And above all, stop complicating things. It really is that simple. Love others, treat others with love, and the world will turn on a dime and the most ancient of conspiracies to divide and conquer the people will disintegrate before the conspirators eyes... and ours


Might as well start from the top; and see what happens as a revisit I missed first time around (reiterated again as very plausible well thought and within my inside/outside choas infinity box a very entertaining concept): yet to be revealed Jesus is Lucifer, God/Yahweh is/was always Satan and the 9 (explaining Zeus and his moniker demigods- Leviathon=Posiedon etc down the line. Moses is a misguided demi-God seeking power, Elvis will be the real King in 200 years (ROCK AND ROLL JESUS), Michael Jackson will be Nebicanezzer, Janet J. will be reinterpreted as a dancing SHIVA HINDI confused with Nefertiti.
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