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posted on Jan, 24 2013 @ 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by Akragon
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:shk:

you're Christian I assume?

So this is coming from someone who gladly accepts the trash that I toss out...

Throwing insults around shows nothing but your own ignorance...

Yet another.... typical Christian



Oh but you used the term trash yourself. You must be ignorant. I thought as much.
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posted on Jan, 24 2013 @ 11:34 AM
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It's important to quote and understand the Talmud, as it relates to the Torah, through the eyes of noted Rabbinic scholars of the day, as it was their God and their book first. The way they interpret their right to females, (rape) based on their holy scripture.

Christians condemn Mohammed for having sex with young girls, while at the same time, Jewish scholars claim that Moses was having sex with, and condoning his people to have sex with female children as young as three years of age!

This custom was certainly practiced during the Old Testament era.



posted on Jan, 24 2013 @ 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by Logarock

Originally posted by Akragon
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:shk:

you're Christian I assume?

So this is coming from someone who gladly accepts the trash that I toss out...

Throwing insults around shows nothing but your own ignorance...

Yet another.... typical Christian



Oh but you used the term trash yourself. You must be ignorant. I thought as much.
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You make no sense...

feel free to pat yourself on the back though...
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posted on Jan, 24 2013 @ 11:37 AM
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No matter what coding PTB and dark hats put into religous texts, people don't follow the coding, and the Golden Rule, do unto others as you would have done unto you, do not harm, lend a helping hand, overcome your weaknesses, not to live selfishlessly, but strive to assist those in need and bring happiness to those around you, these are what survive, generation upon generation from the texts and in the lives of those with faith. Those things are not from the Devil/Satan, and even if one sees the negative things put in there, the people aren't tainted with the sickness of the controllers here. The message of Christ is still the way home, whether one believes in him literally or metaphorically, its the message that gives the golden ticket home. Do good unto others, live selflessly, make those around you happy, give to those in need.

I don't think this thread really helps people, and its not addressing the key issues of the testing ground earth, which were just mentioned above.

If people were truly living their faith, using discernment and not following the distortions put in their religions. Ie. Mercy and Murder your enemies, cannot both be true. One has to choose Love or Rule of Law in the religions. If one chooses the heart and progression and Love, and begins to overcome themselves and help others, this is not worshipping Satan.



posted on Jan, 24 2013 @ 11:41 AM
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Originally posted by windword
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It's important to quote and understand the Talmud, as it relates to the Torah, through the eyes of noted Rabbinic scholars of the day, as it was their God and their book first. The way they interpret their right to females, (rape) based on their holy scripture.

Christians condemn Mohammed for having sex with young girls, while at the same time, Jewish scholars claim that Moses was having sex with, and condoning his people to have sex with female children as young as three years of age!

This custom was certainly practiced during the Old Testament era.



You make some points but in the end your logic is messed up. Naturally we need to understand the Talmud and understand that some of these Rabbis were full of crap.

For example it is a leap to conclude, as these rabbis do, that child sex was oked just because they were allowed to be taken captive. There is nothing in the text that suggests this was the result. Its a mental leap by some pervert rabbis.

You know dont take on the air of authroity by quoting these idots for your own ends. Like what they say here has some inbuilt wieght of authority and flows from a natural understanding of the Torah. You dont really care otherwise is my point.



posted on Jan, 24 2013 @ 11:50 AM
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You're naive or just in plain old denial if you think that captive virgins were used for anything other that sex. In fact, there is plenty of evidential text in the Bible that these virgins were taken as wives. You can bet that the virgins didn't get to choose who their husbands would be and their consent was certainly not taken into consideration.



posted on Jan, 24 2013 @ 11:54 AM
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So I guess anybody else who committed mass murder is a hard ass too?

John Wayne Gacey? Hard ass.

Adam Lanza? Hard ass.

Luis Garavito? Hard ass.

I think you have fairy tale version of god by thinking he's still a loving god after killing millions of people.
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posted on Jan, 24 2013 @ 11:55 AM
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Well see here you go again. You were talking about 3 year olds and now its virgins.



posted on Jan, 24 2013 @ 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by Majestic Lumen
For what it's worth, I have always wondered why the God of the bible always seemed so insecure, if he was supposed to be omnipotent and what not.


Insecure? If you discipline your kids, are you insecure?

We are his children, he cares.



posted on Jan, 24 2013 @ 11:57 AM
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Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
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So I guess anybody else who committed mass murder is a hard ass too?

John Wayne Gacey? Hard ass.

Adam Lanza? Hard ass.

Luis Garavito? Hard ass.

I think you have fairy tale version of god by think he's still a loving god after killing millions of people.
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Dont agree with your ideas of mass murder. Do you think all sort of war is mass murder? Do you believe killing nazis was mass murder on the part of american troops?



posted on Jan, 24 2013 @ 11:57 AM
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Rape is rape!

The fact that toddlers were betrothed at age three through intercourse is just more madness to add to the stinking pile of insanity that is laced all throughout the Old Testament Law.



posted on Jan, 24 2013 @ 11:58 AM
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Originally posted by xstealth

Originally posted by Majestic Lumen
For what it's worth, I have always wondered why the God of the bible always seemed so insecure, if he was supposed to be omnipotent and what not.


Insecure? If you discipline your kids, are you insecure?

We are his children, he cares.



Ever hear of a Father that tosses his children into a firey pit as a form of discipline?

I only know of one... And hes no Father




posted on Jan, 24 2013 @ 12:00 PM
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But we discipline our children in order to make them learn from their mistakes, god just throws them in hell without ever having a chance at redemption. Would a loving parent throw their kid in a closet and leave them there for the rest of his life only for not being a Christian like them? I would hope not.



posted on Jan, 24 2013 @ 12:04 PM
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Of course it was! Did they not kill Nazi's by the thousands? Weren't those Nazi's protecting their homeland just as Americans would if the war was at their footstep? Killing is killing, no matter what way you look at it. I may not agree with their way of life but they were still murdered in my opinion.

Do you think all wars are fought for the right reasons? Of course they aren't and they never have been. If those soldiers killed in the name of a lie then yes, they did commit murder, whether they knew it or not.



posted on Jan, 24 2013 @ 12:12 PM
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Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
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But we discipline our children in order to make them learn from their mistakes, god just throws them in hell without ever having a chance at redemption. Would a loving parent throw their kid in a closet and leave them there for the rest of his life only for not being a Christian like them? I would hope not.


no he doesnt, the millennium is the chance for redemption. 1000 years of teaching with Jesus and no sin to distract us.



posted on Jan, 24 2013 @ 12:17 PM
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Yes but ideas of permanent hell were not Judaic and also were put in place in Christianity hundreds of years after its formation. Early Christians believed in reincarnation.

This is the difference between just believing in rules and books that are written up by controllers, but may contain some legends, stories and things that really occurred, and using discernment.

I don't believe in the book, or the rules of the Church, but was drawn to Christ's message only. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you in every imaginable circumstance.

I dont believe in permanent hell or permanent winterlands. But even so, people who are harming others are harming themselves, and taking the long way home through much suffering and causing this to others is heart wrenching.
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posted on Jan, 24 2013 @ 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by windword
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Rape is rape!

The fact that toddlers were betrothed at age three through intercourse is just more madness to add to the stinking pile of insanity that is laced all throughout the Old Testament Law.


thats not what it says. You got your brain in the gutter as does anyone that strars you.



posted on Jan, 24 2013 @ 12:29 PM
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Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
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Of course it was! Did they not kill Nazi's by the thousands? Weren't those Nazi's protecting their homeland just as Americans would if the war was at their footstep? Killing is killing, no matter what way you look at it. I may not agree with their way of life but they were still murdered in my opinion.

Do you think all wars are fought for the right reasons? Of course they aren't and they never have been. If those soldiers killed in the name of a lie then yes, they did commit murder, whether they knew it or not.



So a nazi is, for the sake of your position, the moral equal to the soilders that liberated the death camps. Way to go there with such a leap into the abyss of moral equivalency. Its not hard anyone can do it.



posted on Jan, 24 2013 @ 12:37 PM
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It's too bad everybody on this earth didn't have a vote in what GOD did or didn't do .
Can you contemplate what the results would be . Some people as parents do let their children have a vote in their parents decisions to regulate them . It always turns out very poorly .
For now you are not God so you are under his ordinances and decisions so deal with it . If it is a problem you have with authority, it no doubt will manifest it's self through out your life and for that you are suffering now . Soon you will see that the religious fallacy as you call it was something more than you found it to be . After you have taken the Mark it will be too late to become wise about the bible though .
But party on ! Rage on against God while you can ! Soon it will be his turn .



posted on Jan, 24 2013 @ 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by Logarock

Originally posted by windword
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Rape is rape!

The fact that toddlers were betrothed at age three through intercourse is just more madness to add to the stinking pile of insanity that is laced all throughout the Old Testament Law.


thats not what it says. You got your brain in the gutter as does anyone that strars you.


Hey! Don't blame the messenger. I'm just quoting the Bible and the Jewish scholars interpretation/justification for rape and child abuse in the Bible.





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