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Hell, as you might define it, is a myth created by the Catholic church. The only way anyone could ever go to hell is if they create one in their own minds first. Please don't make that mistake for the sake of you soul.
And god is also the one who created mankind knowing full well that he was going to send LOTS of people to suffer for eternity. He even created hell! A loving god does not create a place where his creation burns forever.
Their chief is blind; because of his power and his ignorance and his arrogance he said, with his power, "It is I who am God; there is none apart from me." When he said this, he sinned against the entirety. And this speech got up to incorruptibility; then there was a voice that came forth from incorruptibility, saying, "You are mistaken, Samael" - which is, "god of the blind."
Originally posted by Majestic Lumen
For what it's worth, I have always wondered why the God of the bible always seemed so insecure, if he was supposed to be omnipotent and what not.
Originally posted by dragnik
reply to post by chrome413
Did human write that, I wouldn't say that counting on his style, and terms?
According to Marcion, the title God was given to the Demiurge, who was to be sharply distinguished from the higher Good God. The former was díkaios, severely just, the latter agathós, or loving-kind; the former was the "god of this world" (2 Corinthians 4:4), the God of the Old Testament, the latter the true God of the New Testament. Christ, though in reality the Son of the Good God, pretended to be the Messiah of the Demiurge, the better to spread the truth concerning His heavenly Father. The true believer in Christ entered into God's kingdom, the unbeliever remained forever the slave of the Demiurge.
Originally posted by Snoopy1978
reply to post by Northwarden
If god is all-knowing and created the beginning, end, all in between, plus all possible choices, rewards, punishments, space/time, then there cannot be free will. All is known to god, all is written and created, therefore no surprises for the almighty. He can travel back and forth in time, change people's minds, etc. Are you perhaps saying that god has NO clue about choices you decide on? Even the bible depicts an already god-planned, spectacular ending with epic jesus fighting a dragon for crapssake! Give it a rest, the biblical god story is full of irrationalities, obvious contradictions and violent, primitive logic.
Originally posted by PnezakYahakotima
reply to post by robhines
A friend of mine who is of the Tibetan Buddhist frame of mind told me something today that I must take into serious consideration:
This "blind god" which we're referring to... is still a being of some sort. Much like the "Grand Architect" in the Matrix Trilogy... it makes mistakes, like we all do. It believes in its omnipotence and its ability to see all causes, effects, and conclusions.
As much as it was the enemy of Neo, the humans it used for fuel, and the last free humans of Zion, it also needed help itself to become free of its own intellectual trap.
In Tibetan Buddhism, the practice of Tonglen is a meditation which is used by the practitioner as a mechanism for not only the enlightenment and liberation of the individual practitioner, but for the benefit of ALL sentient beings in existence.... including and ESPECIALLY the "blind", be they gods, rulers, demons, humans, animals, ghosts, robots.... all beings.
That was the ultimate lesson of the film, when I reflect upon it.
The suffering of one, if reflected upon, can benefit All... since we're all interconnected by an interpenetrating Awareness.... or Supreme Being....
Our individual paths are not so lonely as we think.
Originally posted by NarrowGate
I am amazed how many people believe in the existence of both God and Satan and also believe this.