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Originally posted by CaticusMaximus
reply to post by Akragon
Ill have to reread it then It has been a while since Ive opened it.
I grew up going to church and all like so many people did. Whenever I open the bible and try to read some of it, Im instantly put into that "geez when is this going to be over?" mindset. Conditioning from all those years of long boring hours listening to the same thing for the 900th time
Originally posted by Siberbat
Unless you set aside your bias and base your OP on contextual biblical evidence; the wall of text you wrote is an opinion and your stance is inadiquate.
Originally posted by Siberbat
Do you have any proof to what you are saying? It is obvious your OP is full of presuppositions on the nature of God and Satan. What are you really trying to do? Use your personal bias against God to make your argument? Unless you set aside your bias and base your OP on contextual biblical evidence; the wall of text you wrote is an opinion and your stance is inadiquate. It is also interesting that you presuppose the nature of Christ, pick and choose what YOU approve of in his message, but leave out prophetic support for Christ's claims (over 300 prophesies) of his devinity, ability to forgive sin, eyewitness accounts of his miracles, and to ressurect from the dead. You have no basis to support what you say. Once again, your statements are inadiquate and defies logic.
Except for your erronious comments regarding Paul, I will agree on one point. Constantine was no "defender of the faith" and used people's faith to furthor his own will, power, and influence.
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by stjarna1
I don't think the OP worships Satan, he's only pointing out that Yahweh is Satan. Since he obviously doesn't worship Yahweh (Satan) then he's not a Satan worshiper.
Other than that, I agree.
As Lucifer can be translated from Greek as "Bringer of Dawn", it is fitting to call the garden story the allegory of humanitys long night in the darkness of ignorance, and the "Bringer of Dawn" who signaled the impending rising of the light, and the banishing of the dark.
Originally posted by HawkeyeNation
Why does anyone believe anything in the bible...I mean really it's just people's opinion on what they believed in back yonder.
"Perhaps the most compelling of evidences demonstrating that the Bible is the word of God is its unswerving ability to accurately predict future events, often in minute details. Specific prophesies are conspicuously absent from the 26 other religious books that claim to be scripture, including the Muslim's Koran, the Book of Mormon, the Hindu Vedas, and Buddhist writings. This in itself should be a major eye-opener to the honest skeptic. "
Accuracy Of Prophecy
The chances of just 48 out of the 456 prophecies being fulfilled in one person are 1 in 10 to the 157 power.
That's — 1 in 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,
"All this illustrates why it is absolutely impossible for anyone to have fulfilled the Messianic prophecies by chance. In fact, a leading authority on the probability theory, Emile Borel states that once we go past one chance in 10 to the 50th power, the probabilities are so small it's impossible to think they will ever occur."
"...once we go past one chance in 10 to the 50th power, the probabilities are so small it's impossible to think they will ever occur....Mathematicians generally agree that, statistically, any odds beyond 1 in 1050 have a zero probability of ever happening.... This is Borel's law in action which was derived by mathematician Emil Borel....
Here is one last illustration of the immensity of the number 10 to the 157th power and why the science of probability shows we are dealing with the miraculous… Imagine one ant traveling at the speed of only one inch every 15 billion years. If he could only carry one atom at a time, how many atoms could he move in 10 to the 157th power of years?
He would, even at that incredibly slow speed, be able to move all the atoms in 600,000 trillion trillion trillion trillion universes the size for our universe, a distance of 30 billion light years! Again, by the laws of probability, all of this means that it is simply impossible for 48 prophecies to be fulfilled by chance. LINK
"There are 28 books throughout human history that people claim to be from God. How do we know which one is from God? Only the Christian Holy Bible contains prophecy (foretelling of the future) that has NEVER missed. God tells us, if what the prophet says doesn't come true, he did not speak it."