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advocacy of a classless society in which private ownership has been abolished and the means of production and subsistence belong to the community
2026-2053: World War III - 600 million dead, many governments destroyed. By that point, we can assume most people were more concerned with day-to-day survival in a somewhat nuclear wasteland.
2063: Zefram Cochrane converts a nuclear missile into the first warp capable, human made vessel, the Phoenix. Him going to warp speed attracts attention of a nearby Vulcan ship, who come down and introduce themselves.
2151: The experimental ship Enterprise NX-01 begins exploring space beyond the Solar system, after a century of rebuilding humanity, during which famine and war are eradicated. All under the watchful eye of Vulcans.
The United Federation of Planets (abbreviated as UFP and commonly referred to as the Federation) was an interstellar federal republic, composed of planetary governments that agreed to exist semi-autonomously under a single central government based on the principles of universal liberty, rights, and equality, and to share their knowledge and resources in peaceful cooperation and space exploration.
the form of a post-capitalist liberal democracy and constitutional republic.
The legislature of the Federation Council is located at the Presidio of San Francisco.
There is an executive branch headed by a Federation President, who keeps offices in the Palais de la Concorde in Paris.
There is a judiciary branch as well, the highest court of which is the Federation Supreme Court.
The Federation's scientific, diplomatic and defensive/military arm is Starfleet, depicted as being headquartered at Fort Baker, just north of San Francisco across the Golden Gate Bridge.
they are portrayed as having existed for hundreds or thousands of years (as attested by Guinan and the Borg Queen).
We saw the first bio-mechanical Borg born. There was no denying it... His name: Captain Will Decker. That was the beginning of the bio-mechanical Borg as we came to know them in the 24th century
Upon arriving at Earth, V'Ger threatened to destroy the planet unless it was allowed to meet with the creator. Decker was among the landing party which also included Kirk, Spock, and Doctor McCoy, which discovered that V'Ger was actually an old Earth space probe known as Voyager 6 and was seeking to evolve by joining with its creator, namely, a human. Having lost the captain's seat and no longer having Ilia, Decker volunteered to physically join with V'Ger. Decker and the Ilia probe disappeared into a blinding source of light, evolving into a new lifeform, leaving for parts unknown.
Starfleet Flag Rank Officers. All of them are either Commodore or above (Left Rear Admiral in TNG and beyond)
This was a fun debate, one that was enjoyable to read along with, as well as to judge. That is based on my interest in Star Trek -- I would guess that someone who didn't watch the show wouldn't see the same value in both fighters' arguments, but to such a person, know that this was well researched and presented within the confines of a fictional universe.
Druid42 had one basic problem, though, in that, as it is presented within that fictional universe, it is patently obvious that the Federation is, indeed, a communist society. That may well stem from the beginning, predicated on Roddenberry's liberal views and hopes for society's future, or it may simply be reflective of the core science fiction audience in the late 1960s and his attempt to cater to them, but the original Star Trek television series clearly depicts a society (at least as far as Star Fleet goes, and there is no reason not to extend that to the rest of humanity) that is communist.
To deal with that bit of obviousness, Druid points to the Borg as a "more obvious" communist culture, but that's a bit like saying that ex-patriots aren't American, because a citizen who actually lives in the country is "more obviously an American." I realize that was an effort to deal with vkey08's essentially unbeatable starting position, and I very much enjoyed his second post, which presented the Borg argument creatively, but in the end it fell short. I also took a little umbrage with his statement that communism "does not promote new ideas" -- weren't the Russians the first to put a man into space?
For her part, vkey08 does a solid job of presenting the facts, refuting the arguments made by her opponent and, like him, presents a creative and enjoyable argument. I think that we all appreciated the graphics, the creativity, and the depth of knowledge that both fighters showed here, but vkey08 wins this debate.
This debate was an absolute joy to read! Both debaters deviated from the normal back and forth and incorporated a much "lighter" style, yet focusing on the topic at hand. vkey08 shows a great knowledge about ST and goes in depth into specifics that only a well-educated fan could appreciate. The rebuttal in regards to the Picard Winery and the Creole Kitchen was also superb. That being said, I give the debate to Druid42. He was able to focus on how Communism suppresses individuality and individual achievement, but that it does not necessarily apply to the system in place in ST; giving examples to illustrate how any one person can achieve more than they would be able to in a truly Communist state. vkey08 did a good job of showing how ST's government may be socialist, but Druid42 was able to show it was not Communist. Another great debate!
Knowing absolutely nothing about Star Trek (I know…I know…sorry) made this a very interesting debate for me to judge. I was impressed with vkey08’s opening statement but Druid42 quickly came back with a lot of references to counter it. Round one went to Druid42. I thought round two clearly went to vkey08 who did an awesome job of dissected Druid42's post point by point…very compelling. Both closing statements were outstanding and both participants finished strong…but there can be only one winner! Based on great use of references and very entertaining and convincing arguments, the winner is Druid42. Great job to both fighters for a well fought debate.
Awesome debate! In regards to judging, one has to know a little bit about the ST world and as such, even though both fighters strongly represented their points of view, I must give this win to Druid42.
He’s made a stronger case that the real communists were the Borg, the Federation being a pyramidal organization much like we have today. Also, vkey08 made a significant error with Will Decker, stating that he was the first born Borg, which is not exactly accurate. Decker was supposed (as rumors stated) to appear in Voyager’s “The 37’s” episode in which Voyager would get close to the Borg’s home world. Superior Decker wasn’t to be portrayed as a Borg but as an almost godly figure having “Q” qualities.
This was a very different and highly enjoyable debate and thumbs up to both challengers for an exciting moment of entertainment. Congrats to Druid42 for the win.