reply to post by Theprimordialocker
Okay, I call the only Supreme being I know God. Who is the other one?
And I want to know where he lives too.
Masonry is not Real Enlightenment, page 10
reply posted on 27-1-2013 @ 11:09 AM by AvisNigra
Originally posted by Theprimordialocker
Not insulted in the least keep going .. your doing well
You'll receive no insults here. With regard to serving two masters, see my post here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
This will strike a contentious point for some, but the fact is that Hiram is pointing us to Christ and in fact, is truly a type of Christ.
I would still welcome a reply to the PM I sent you several days ago.
reply posted on 27-1-2013 @ 04:02 PM by network dude
reply to post by Theprimordialocker
So either you don't know, or you are scared to answer.
Which it is?
So either you don't know, or you are scared to answer.
Which it is?
reply posted on 5-4-2013 @ 06:24 PM by Wonders
Originally posted by Fitzgibbon
Originally posted by Wonders
Originally posted by KSigMason
reply to post by Theprimordialocker
Freemasonry is based firstly on Truth, but also charity, love, justice, moderation, courage, prudence, equality, moral rectitude, and liberty.
That is truly laughable.
I disagree, very much.
Because.....why exactly? Are there some facts you could point to that aren't resting on half-truths or full-out lies? Is there something in particular that the rest of Masons on ATS (or anywhere else for that matter) are not privy to? Will you come back and pick up the gauntlet? Or is it to lie there
Fitz
I'm back.
Demonic Freemasonry
That's just one of many. Most of you need to get those blindfolds off, don't be afraid to break your gruesome initiation vows.
reply posted on 5-4-2013 @ 09:27 PM by Pinocchio
reply to post by Wonders
The Three Great Lights:
1) The Father (Master)...
2) The Son (Apprentice)...
3) The Holy Spirit (Flag)...
The Rite:
1) Water- Stand Up For The People/Person...
2) Sulfur- Endure For The People/Person...
3) Salt- Made By The People/Person...
Note: Chamber Of Reflection (Stand Alone)...
Rite Of Passage...
JAH is pronounced "You"...
BAL is pronounced "Bow"...
ON is pronounced "In"...
You Bow In is the ritual of "Homage" which is immediately followed up with "Fealty" to lord and land.
That leads to knighthood...
The bow/kneel is due to the rite of passage.
It represents trampling the serpent under foot crushing its head whilst bruising the heel.
Thus you bow and kneel because it hurt too much to remain standing.
That is freemasonic essence... how could it be demonic?
The Three Great Lights:
1) The Father (Master)...
2) The Son (Apprentice)...
3) The Holy Spirit (Flag)...
The Rite:
1) Water- Stand Up For The People/Person...
2) Sulfur- Endure For The People/Person...
3) Salt- Made By The People/Person...
Note: Chamber Of Reflection (Stand Alone)...
Rite Of Passage...
JAH is pronounced "You"...
BAL is pronounced "Bow"...
ON is pronounced "In"...
You Bow In is the ritual of "Homage" which is immediately followed up with "Fealty" to lord and land.
That leads to knighthood...
The bow/kneel is due to the rite of passage.
It represents trampling the serpent under foot crushing its head whilst bruising the heel.
Thus you bow and kneel because it hurt too much to remain standing.
That is freemasonic essence... how could it be demonic?
reply posted on 6-4-2013 @ 02:33 AM by KSigMason
reply to post by Wonders
Your title is even an incorrect assertion.
Each of these points is completely incorrect and provides no evidence to support such things.
Please define for me what "Lower-level Freemasons" are?
Then how do you know about it? As a non-member you are logically lower on the information pole than those fabled "lower level Freemason". Unless of course you think yourself smarter or more clever than actual members then at that point we're not dealing rationally, but against blind arrogance and ignorance.
Please name these innermost esoteric groups and some of their members.
Incorrect and unsubstantiated.
What's sad and tragic is that you are allowed to lie without being held accountable.
Not true.
According to who? What evidence do you have of this?
So you feel you know more about Freemasonry or that you are smarter than the Founders? LOL
www.travelingtemplar.com...
How so?
It is a symbol of Divine Providence. It has been used by many different cultures and religions to include Christianity.
No we don't. Blood oaths require one to spill blood at the time of the oath, this doesn't happen.
I don't have time for a 2+ hour video. I'm not wasting time I don't have to waste right now.
Of course you're taking what he wrote out of context as people like you normally do. You have this little amount of information, right or wrong, and you make sensational accusations based usually on ignorance, fabrications, manipulations, and just good ol' plain lies; apparently lying isn't a sin if it suits your agenda.
Pike also stated in Morals & Dogma that Freemasonry is NOT a religion. Technically if you have a strong grasp at what he is saying he does not say Freemasonry is a religion, but uses "like" which means he is doing a comparison between Freemasonry and religions (ie they have some similar characteristics, have similiar characteristics doesn't mean they are the same thing).
Pike does make mention of anti-Masons and other followers of ignorance when he stated from your selected quote: "uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be mislead"
Incorrect. There are many invitational, honorary groups that are extremely Christian and there is nothing in Freemasonry that is against the Christian faith. Your version of Christianity is one without love, hope, tolerance, and compassion which you replaced the Savior with your new Trinity of Fear, Superstition, and Hatred.
More twisting of Pike's words using the anti-Masons good ol' "cut-and-paste" job without any real grasp as to what he intended.
First off, may Bro. Kleinknecht Rest in Peace. Second, there is much more to Freemasonry than Pike (celebrated as he is) and the Scottish Rite. You anti-Masons have tunnel vision and a hard-on for the Scottish Rite without any focus on the older more restrictive bodies in Freemasonry.
To be continued...
Your title is even an incorrect assertion.
The purpose of Freemasonry is to lure good people down an evil road. Little by little Freemasonry tries to corrupt good Christian men. The group's nature is highly deceptive. Lower-level Freemasons are kept in the dark deliberately, lest they resign immediately.
Each of these points is completely incorrect and provides no evidence to support such things.
Please define for me what "Lower-level Freemasons" are?
...but these men are not told the true Satanic nature of the innermost esoteric group.
Then how do you know about it? As a non-member you are logically lower on the information pole than those fabled "lower level Freemason". Unless of course you think yourself smarter or more clever than actual members then at that point we're not dealing rationally, but against blind arrogance and ignorance.
Please name these innermost esoteric groups and some of their members.
Whereas talented and famous men feel honored to belong to such a prestigious group, it's all designed to deceive them into following Satan.
Incorrect and unsubstantiated.
It's really sad and tragic.
What's sad and tragic is that you are allowed to lie without being held accountable.
The lowest three degrees of Freemasonry are highly deceived, deliberately kept in the dark.
Not true.
Back during the time of the founding of America, Adam Weishaupt felt that Freemasonry was the easiest way to get a good Christian man onto a path to destruction.
According to who? What evidence do you have of this?
A large percentage of our founding fathers were Freemasons, but they weren't evil men. They were part of an evil system that they didn't fully comprehend.
So you feel you know more about Freemasonry or that you are smarter than the Founders? LOL
www.travelingtemplar.com...
Freemasonry was a corrupt skateboard readymade for his purposes.
How so?
The All Seeing Eye is sometimes considered the eye of god, that is, Lucifer.
It is a symbol of Divine Providence. It has been used by many different cultures and religions to include Christianity.
Masons make blood oaths.
No we don't. Blood oaths require one to spill blood at the time of the oath, this doesn't happen.
I don't have time for a 2+ hour video. I'm not wasting time I don't have to waste right now.
Let us hear Masonic author Manly P. Hall describe this two-dimensional organization of Freemasonry.
Of course you're taking what he wrote out of context as people like you normally do. You have this little amount of information, right or wrong, and you make sensational accusations based usually on ignorance, fabrications, manipulations, and just good ol' plain lies; apparently lying isn't a sin if it suits your agenda.
Pike also stated in Morals & Dogma that Freemasonry is NOT a religion. Technically if you have a strong grasp at what he is saying he does not say Freemasonry is a religion, but uses "like" which means he is doing a comparison between Freemasonry and religions (ie they have some similar characteristics, have similiar characteristics doesn't mean they are the same thing).
Pike does make mention of anti-Masons and other followers of ignorance when he stated from your selected quote: "uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be mislead"
If a man were known to revere Jesus Christ in the beginning of his membership within Masonry, he would be immediately shunted into the visible society, and would never, ever learn the truth.
Incorrect. There are many invitational, honorary groups that are extremely Christian and there is nothing in Freemasonry that is against the Christian faith. Your version of Christianity is one without love, hope, tolerance, and compassion which you replaced the Savior with your new Trinity of Fear, Superstition, and Hatred.
More twisting of Pike's words using the anti-Masons good ol' "cut-and-paste" job without any real grasp as to what he intended.
The fact is, Pike IS Freemasonry today.
First off, may Bro. Kleinknecht Rest in Peace. Second, there is much more to Freemasonry than Pike (celebrated as he is) and the Scottish Rite. You anti-Masons have tunnel vision and a hard-on for the Scottish Rite without any focus on the older more restrictive bodies in Freemasonry.
To be continued...
reply posted on 6-4-2013 @ 02:33 AM by KSigMason
reply to post by Wonders
Co-Masonry has no involvement with recognize, regular Freemasonry
The degree used here is another misquote and the intent of Pike comes from the 30th degree and warns against tyrants and fascists as well as pointing again that those who deserve to be misled will be misled.
Co-Masonry has no involvement with recognize, regular Freemasonry
Albert Pike Taught Freemasons to Deceive Lower Level Freemasons
The degree used here is another misquote and the intent of Pike comes from the 30th degree and warns against tyrants and fascists as well as pointing again that those who deserve to be misled will be misled.
reply posted on 6-4-2013 @ 07:48 AM by network dude
reply to post by Wonders
Well, it was only a matter of time. You have caught us.
And to think all you had to do is post some garbage from one of those over zealous Christian hate sites.
You sure are the cleaver one.
Well, it was only a matter of time. You have caught us.
And to think all you had to do is post some garbage from one of those over zealous Christian hate sites.
You sure are the cleaver one.
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