You are disagreeing with the political office holders at the present time and you are transferring that to the government as a whole. The people
who hold an office are NOT the "Government". The government is the system that has been set up according to the Constitution. You are using your
dislike of a current office holder to justify ... well.... treason against the Constitution that you claim you support.
The small groups of people within certain states saying they want to secede are doing so for one reason and one reason only, their political party
didn't win the election. They can deny it all they want, but that's the sole reason for it. It's a bad case of "sore loser-ism". Instead of
working to better their platform and to promote the passing of laws they support or the defeat of laws they don't support they want to play the game
of "I'll take my ball and go away".
Our government was set up to be representative of the people at large. There are elections where the majority gets to choose who will hold certain
offices. Just because your side loses doesn't mean the form of government has changed, it doesn't mean the Constitution has changed. It merely means
that the people who are presently in charge of upholding the Constitution are of a different political party than the minority of voters happen to be.
If the losing side seceeded every time we had an election, our country wouldn't be over 200 years old.
The people who are shouting about seceeding are not a majority, not even a majority of their own states. They are ranting and raving because somebody
told them to rant and rave. The people who told them to rant and rave knew that those people didn't have a concept of what the government actually is
or even what they were ranting and raving about.
You don't like the President. Well, at least half the country didn't like the last president but they weren't ranting and raving about wanting to
secede. They worked hard to ensure their candidate won the next election. At one point in the last presidency, only 23% of the population approved of
him. That didn't mean they wanted to commit treason and do away with the government, that meant they didn't like the guy who sat in the White House.
If people are not able to differentiate between the government and a political office, our country won't survive much longer anyway. When you go
against the government, when you want to secede, you are going directly against the US Constitution, not against Obama, not against Congress, you are
going against the United States of America. There is a big BIG difference in a political office holder and "the government".
You claim I'm using my dislike of the current office holder to "justify treason against the constitutuion". Say WHAT?? Unreal what some people
can extrapolate from a very basic post. I could just as easily say that, by you accepting the current standard of the way the constitution is being
treated like a relic from the past, and has no "value" today, that indeed you are more treasonous than I.
As I stated earlier, I DON'T CARE who won the presidency. It is true that I am very disappointed, and very sickened, by the behavior of Obama, but I
was also sick and disgusted by Bush. So, my friend, your attempt to box me into the Dem or Pub square peg hole has failed. I vote independent, and I
expect to lose those elections, so I had no real dog in that race.
In essence, your whole argument against me, and why you claim i'm committing treason, is because you want to put me as a sore-loser tea-bagger, and
you couldn't be farther from the truth if you tried.
I think this had nothing to do with the election (although you claim that you're so sure you know what everybody's thinking), and has everything to
do with our country circling the drain, while we have folks such as yourself telling us that it's always been this way, and we have to support it.
Well, YOU can support our demise. You can support torture, indefinite detention, jailing of peaceful protestors, kill lists, drone bombings, internet
spying, a rogue police state, and big money buying elections and votes which profit them, not us. Because that is what our government is doing
Our Constitution provides for as many protections as possible to ensure that the Government is subservient to the People and only exists for the
purpose of serving the People. However, should these protections fail it is up to the People to rise up against the Government and to put the
Government back in it's place. In this capacity, the People act as the fourth branch of government to take control and to override their decisions
that violate the Fundamental Rights of the People to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.
The above quote is the exact opposite of what you proposed in your OP. Don't turn this into a secessionist issue, there's plenty of threads about