the gun rallies are over ... will we revolt like the Founding Fathers?

I was at the Guns Across America rally in Madison WI Today and there were ALOT of guns. I would say there were at least 600 people there. I thought the tone would be more tough but it still went well. The head line speaker was Josh Tolley and he was the only one to fire up the crowd! He seemed to speak from the heart (The rest of the speakers in WI just seemed bored to be there) I suggest watching the video. I will post a link on the bottom of this page.

With so many people saying "Liberty or death" I was wondering why everyone ws so calm. If any of you went (or did not go) to a rally today what did you think (or hear)? I have seen alot of threads on ATS The last few days with harsh words but as far as i can tell none of the Rallys around the country were all that inspiring.

Do you think that this will have the same fate as The Tea Party or do you think things will get much more "active" around the nation? The Tea Party had a good chance to make a change but failed.

In my view, i do not wish for violance but, i think Thomas Jefferson had it right when he said "Occasionally the tree of Liberty must be watered with the blood of Patriots and Tyrants alike"

I would like to know what everyone here thinks about the rallys today and the near future of the country as a whole.

www.youtube.com...

What would you be revolting against? I am pretty sure revolts over the small possibility of a return to an assualt weapons ban is not going to happen. People always bitch and complain but, to start a conflict that would end in the deaths of millions and the nation wrecked and starving is going to take a real good reason.

reply to post by badgerman24


Why do you like Josh Tolley so much?

Posted 05-09-11 @ 06:36 on a different website.

Hello everyone this is my first post sorry if i do something wrong i am learning. I read an interesting article about the second amendment today and wanted to share it with you all to see what your thoughts were. here is the link i look forward to a good discusion. Thank you. The 2nd Amendment: Only Exists When it is Destroyed « Josh Tolley's Blog

You must really like this guy or your being paid?

reply to post by JBA2848


I post stuff from lots of people BUT i don't have much free time during my day and his show is on when i can listen. Plus he is from my state not many people come from WI and i agree with alot of the things he says.

but i was aso asking if any other people went to a rally and what they thought

I WISH I COULD GET PAID for doing what i do for fun LOL

reply to post by MrSpad


The system as a whole

reply to post by badgerman24


Did you know you have a profile on a Cybersex Chat Website?link I am not sure if you are being trolled or if you are trolling.

It popped up right next to the JoshTolley website you posted about ATS in the comments of the website. joshtolley.wordpress.com... Talking about firing cops and replacing them with soldiers? I guess you take the marshal law taking over the US thing to heart?

I say just put down the Black Ops game for a while.
video-hned.com...

But Josh Tooley seems to be all about marketing and making money. That Is it.

www.linkedin.com...

Groups and Associations: Broadcast and Radio Professionals Business Connections of Greater Madison Consultants Network Innovative Marketing, PR, Sales, Word-of-Mouth & Buzz Innovators Innovation Network by Gerald Haman Lunch with the Bunch On Startups - The Community For Entrepreneurs Private Equity and Venture Capital Group Radio Station Owners and Managers Startup Specialists Talk Show Host Group Talk Show Radio Hosts Talking Radio

reply to post by JBA2848


I do not have anything on any "cyber sex" site

by the way this thread has nothing to do with what you people are replying with. way to stay on topic...

reply to post by badgerman24


I would look into if I was you. The one marked link above. I know I had a lot of stuff from ATS posted on a religious website. I guess the religious website picked a few members from ATS and trolled our post on ATS as post on there website. Called us contributors and guest writers. But Tolley seems out for a buck.

Josh Tolley is also Joshua Tolley of Salt Lake City. He was a marketing professional and still is from his profile.

www.linkedin.com...

He works for End Point Marketing.

www.endpoint.com...

reply to post by JBA2848


Thank ou for the heads upon the trollng. I hate that shi*

The two links in your last post are not the Same Josh Tolley as the radio guy a saw today.

reply to post by badgerman24


Same guy. I thought the same thing when his name was popping up every where but it is him. He is into marketing and online sales even web hosting. Now he is doing radio.

reply to post by JBA2848


Not even close to the same guy. same name sure maybe even the same type of biz. but if you watch the vido i posted about 20 secods into it you can see the Josh Tolley that was at the WI rally today.

Either way thank you for the trolling tip but i would like this thread to stay on topic please feel free to message me

reply to post by badgerman24


Same guy and these two blog post seem off for some reason.

eggyknap.blogspot.com...

On one post he wants to know why Republicans banned guns at Occupy Protest and the Republican Convention. Then his next post says after Sandy Hook "It would be impossible to draft meaningful, reasonable legislation when one party to the discussion consistently and willfully fails to understand the subject matter." So which party is he talking about? The Republicans who banned guns at events or the Democrats for wanting assault weapons ban? Sounds like he has a problem with both parties to me. But he has gotten lost in the rhetoric. Between April and December some how?

And that blog post comes from here.Blog is listed near the bottom.www.linkedin.com...

the revolution was more about currency than taxes

most americans don't understand currency, so no, there will not be a revolution like the founding fathers

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
the revolution was more about currency than taxes

most americans don't understand currency, so no, there will not be a revolution like the founding fathers

The American Revolution was the result of King George instructing his army to march to Concord for the sole purpose of confiscating guns. Re-writing history much?

Having received Intelligence, that a Quantity of Ammunition, Provision, Artillery, Tents and small Arms, have been collected at Concord, for the Avowed Purpose of raising and supporting a Rebellion against His Majesty, you will March with the Corps of Grenadiers and Light Infantry, put under your Command, with utmost expedition and Secrecy to Concord, where you will seize and destroy all Artillery, Ammunition, Provisions, Tents, Small Arms, and all Military Stores whatever - Per Order of General Gage to Lt. Colonel F. Smith, of the Kings Troops

At seven o’clock in the morning on April 19th, 1775 the 900 British soldiers reached their main objective, the tiny village of Concord. The Redcoats occupied the village center and proceded to march a few hundred yards west to the Concord River, in an effort to seize the Old North Bridge. The British suspected the farm houses on the opposite side of the river to be harboring the arsenal of illegal rebel arms.


However, as the British massed their troops upon the bridge, they were not alone. The Redcoats were being watched. About 250 armed farmers gathered on Punkatasset hill above the Old North Bridge, about 300 yards away. These men were lead by their representative, Colonel James Barrett, a Concord farmer and veteran of the French and Indian war.

As the Minutemen observed the King's men from the hill, something else caught their watchful eye. A pale column of smoke rose over the trees. The British were burning Concord, which lay past the British held side of the river. Joseph Hosmer, Colonel Barrett's second in command turned to Barrett and exclaimed, "Will you let them burn the town down?" Local militia leader, Isaac Davis drew his sword, and, turning to Barret, said: "I haven't a man that's afraid to go."

Colonel Barrett gave the order to march in defense of Concord. These men resolved to march over the bridge into the middle of the village to defend their homes, or die in the attempt. These defenders of Concordia, farmers, fisherman, woodsman; mostly fathers and their adolescent sons, marched down from the hill toward the bridge.

The British were immensely surprised, not only to see a small band of farmers on the hill, but to their shock, they were advancing! The Redcoats withdrew to the village side of the bridge and massed around the narrow span. They had to hold the bridge. Colonel Smith had his orders from General Gage, and he meant to carry them out. With their hundreds of glistening guns pointed toward the river, the American kept coming. A single shot rang out. The shot heard 'round the world. A rag-tag band of farmers confronted the King's best soldiers... and beat them.

As the British retreated, they were astonished to find 6,000 Minutemen from local villages had descended upon the outskirts of Concord. The Minutemen waited for the British until they reached Merriams Corner, where they sprung upon them. Thus began the bloody retreat back to Boston. The Minutemen hid behind trees and stone fences to attack the British from both sides of the "King's" road. They were harried every step of the way. The British mission was a failure. The rebel leaders were safe and the colonists had salvaged their cache of arms.

reply to post by badgerman24


Badge - you are right they are not the same guy.

I suspect you are being trolled by a disinformation agent.

So where are the videos of dead children and a dead Lanza?

Where are the reports of funerals happening?

I won't go to that blood, guts and gore website to see if they are there!

From all the crap about guns, civil war and more guns that I have read on ATS recently. I thought that there would have been a few more pro-gun types protesting, but the crowds willing to show up and rally were in fact really quite low. I was expecting to see 100's of thousands of people! This tells me that only a minority of people in the USA are really pro-gun. Out of a nation of 313 million, a few thousand here and there is nothing but a joke. If you want a revolution your going to need a few more people than that to rally and I doubt France will help this time. Good luck, your going to need it

Originally posted by METACOMET

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
the revolution was more about currency than taxes

most americans don't understand currency, so no, there will not be a revolution like the founding fathers

The American Revolution was the result of King George instructing his army to march to Concord for the sole purpose of confiscating guns. Re-writing history much?

my source is franklin. do you have a better source ?

examination by the British Parliament in February 1766, published in "The Examination of Benjamin Franklin" in The Parliamentary History of England from the Earliest Period to the Year 1803‎ (1813); when questioned why Parliament had lost respect among the people of the Colonies, he answered: "To a concurrence of causes: the restraints lately laid on their trade, by which the bringing of foreign gold and silver into the Colonies was prevented; the prohibition of making paper money among themselves, and then demanding a new and heavy tax by stamps; taking away, at the same time, trials by juries, and refusing to receive and hear their humble petitions".

where is the gun confiscation part ?

reply to post by LeLeu


There are many OTHER reasons why someone may not have attended, but believe what you want. I absolutely refuse to list all POSSIBLE reasons, but I will give you the reason why I didn't attend, though I am a firm believer in the Second Amendment:

I cannot afford the money to travel to my state Capitol. I cannot afford the money to travel to my state Capitol even if I shared the expense with another or several others. I was there in spirit, however.

Gun grabbers need not get 'all hot and bothered' thinking a possible gun confiscation would go well, because I'm here to tell you it would not!

I'm done here!