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Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by jiggerj
So someone who doesn't love themselves means they love themselves in other ways? If they don't love themselves then they don't love themselves. It doesn't make sense that someone can not love themselves but love themselves in different ways at the same time. That's like saying since they hate themselves then they love themselves by hating themselves, it's illogical.
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by jiggerj
You're assuming that everyone always does good only so they can get that "good feeling" in the end, which is not always the case. The good feeling in the end is not always the reason someone does something good, in fact a lot of the time that good feeling is only a side effect of what they did.
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by jiggerj
I understood your question and it doesn't make sense. Would you consider hating yourself as loving yourself? Because that's basically what you're implying here.
Love is a concept just like math is. If 2+2=4 then it equals 4, no matter how someone else tries to spin it just like how hate =/= love no matter how YOU try to spin it.edit on 21-1-2013 by 3NL1GHT3N3D1 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by jiggerj
Have you ever given a kidney to help someone survive? If not then how could you possibly know their Intentions behind doing it? The same thing with Mother Theresa, how can you just assume what she was thinking then turn around and call it fact?
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by jiggerj
No, I understood it quite clearly actually. You can assume I didn't but that still makes you wrong. Care to address the points I made?
Would you consider hating yourself as loving yourself?
Originally posted by Akragon
I've got an interesting question for the religious community...
The two commandments Jesus gave were:
Love God...
And love your neighbour as you love yourselves...
But....
What if one does not love him/her self?
In fact, what does said person do if he/she actually hates themself?
Many go through life, and at some point they end up hating what they've become...
I thought this might be an interesting discussion so lets see where it goes...
By the way... I have no food for the trolls... So you guys will have to feast elsewhere
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by jiggerj
Just because you can't be selfless doesn't mean anyone else can't either. Spin it whatever way you want, but there is such a thing as selflessness. Just because someone feels good after doing something nice doesn't mean they weren't acting selflessly. What about somebody who risks their life to save a strangers? Were they doing it only to get a good feeling afterward? I seriously doubt it.edit on 21-1-2013 by 3NL1GHT3N3D1 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by jiggerj
It's defined while you're doing it! Who cares what happens before or after? If you go out on a limb and risk your life to save a stranger then you are being completely selfless. This will be my last reply to you because you obviously are not going to get it.
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by jiggerj
A child will hate his parents if they take away their favorite toy... but if that toy is a knife... is it right to let them have it?
All depends. What century are you talking about? If love is the same for everyone, then surely you'd agree that love has meant the same throughout time. What did good, loving parents give their ten year old boys back in the 1700's? Answer: Hunting knives and guns.
Would you let a 30 year old man molest your 13 year old child? Of course not. But, back in the day, and as a loving, caring father you would have let a financially well-to-do man MARRY your 13 year old daughter and let her have his babies.
Perhaps we gave away our children at such an early age because certain "priests" taught us it was right back in the day? Where else could such trash come from but the OT?
Originally posted by jiggerj
reply to post by Akragon
Perhaps we gave away our children at such an early age because certain "priests" taught us it was right back in the day? Where else could such trash come from but the OT?
You wrote this 45 minutes ago and you're still alive?
If I wrote that I would soon learn what love ISN'T.