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Originally posted by Akragon
I've got an interesting question for the religious community...
The two commandments Jesus gave were:
Love God...
And love your neighbour as you love yourselves...
But....
What if one does not love him/her self?
In fact, what does said person do if he/she actually hates themself?
Many go through life, and at some point they end up hating what they've become...
I thought this might be an interesting discussion so lets see where it goes...
By the way... I have no food for the trolls... So you guys will have to feast elsewhere
Originally posted by backcase
If any part of a man is filled with hatred, how could he ever love God fully? Part of this man has a hatred for God's creation.
Originally posted by TheProphetMark
I used to hate myself, but I eventually learned to love myself when I found God. Not going to bother getting into it, but if you're interested just check out my signature as it will explain a lot.
I can't say I 'hate' God, because I don't but I am disappointed in him. If he's all powerful and mighty, it shouldn't be too hard for him to solve our current issues in the World due to Hunger, Greed, Selfishness, and all else. The fact that he would sit by and watch others who are so helpless with themselves get completely destroyed throughout life keeps me at an 'agnostic' point of view but from what I see, I do fully believe in God but our dead beat Father could do more even without the need of revealing himself to the World. I know I could if I was God.
Originally posted by Akragon
Perhaps i'll play the devil's advocate here... for the sake of conversation
25 And there went great multitudes with him: and he turned, and said unto them,
26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
Originally posted by Akragon
I've got an interesting question for the religious community...
The two commandments Jesus gave were:
Love God...
And love your neighbour as you love yourselves...
But....
What if one does not love him/her self?
In fact, what does said person do if he/she actually hates themself?
Many go through life, and at some point they end up hating what they've become...
I thought this might be an interesting discussion so lets see where it goes...
By the way... I have no food for the trolls... So you guys will have to feast elsewhere
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by vethumanbeing
I think you'll have to explain that one...
Originally posted by BrokenCircles
Originally posted by backcase
If any part of a man is filled with hatred, how could he ever love God fully? Part of this man has a hatred for God's creation.
If that is true, then god must have difficulties showing affection.
Religion has been the root cause for so much blood throughout the years. There is no sign of stopping anytime soon either.
Sometimes, it even seems like those whom love their god the most, are the same ones with the most hate.
edit on 1/19/13 by BrokenCircles because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Akragon
Perhaps i'll play the devil's advocate here... for the sake of conversation
25 And there went great multitudes with him: and he turned, and said unto them,
26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
Originally posted by adjensen
Originally posted by Akragon
Perhaps i'll play the devil's advocate here... for the sake of conversation
25 And there went great multitudes with him: and he turned, and said unto them,
26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
You know how you're always going on about Hebrews 9:27 not being against reincarnation?
Same thing here -- Jesus is not saying that you should "hate" anyone.
Here's a source from my buddies Jews for Jesus.
Originally posted by dodol
Originally posted by BrokenCircles
Originally posted by backcase
If any part of a man is filled with hatred, how could he ever love God fully? Part of this man has a hatred for God's creation.
If that is true, then god must have difficulties showing affection.
Religion has been the root cause for so much blood throughout the years. There is no sign of stopping anytime soon either.
Sometimes, it even seems like those whom love their god the most, are the same ones with the most hate.
edit on 1/19/13 by BrokenCircles because: (no reason given)
Let say that in the future we could destroy all Organized Religions (and kill the creators in everyone's mind)... That still left us some major issues that we need to solve: race, social status, etc
But I think all of the remaining issues just needs Extra Subject in school: Ego Slayer.
Originally posted by backcase
reply to post by BrokenCircles
You said
"Sometimes, it even seems like those whom love their god the most, are the same ones with the most hate. "
but Jesus says something like "he who is considered the least among the kingdom of men, is the greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven"
Maybe those who seem to love God the most, do not. No one has perfect judgement but God eh? No one knows a man like God knows him.
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Originally posted by backcase
reply to post by BrokenCircles
You said
"Sometimes, it even seems like those whom love their god the most, are the same ones with the most hate. "
but Jesus says something like "he who is considered the least among the kingdom of men, is the greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven"
Maybe those who seem to love God the most, do not. No one has perfect judgement but God eh? No one knows a man like God knows him.
God created the potencial for something such as man or anything else (for that matter) to exist. Man defines God. It is not the other way around. God was clueless and lonely, it had no idea of itself and so allowed itself to fracture into small parts in order to occupy gross matter (give it consciousness) and explore its own beingness.
Devout God lovers tend/seem to be the worst of the judgmental human haters. Something rings circular-do they dispise themselves first and foremost? Is there a pathology here? As to whom created man? Someone else hands on, laboratory setting not God itself (but the potencial was there and it occured).
edit on 19-1-2013 by vethumanbeing because: (no reason given)