posted on Jan, 20 2013 @ 12:40 AM
reply to post by seeker1963
How do you question the current administration, in one breath, and then defend them in the next is beyond me!
Well, the same way that I can say I have a great deal of respect for the release of the Pentagon Papers. I also respect what Assange did. In fact,
there but for the grace go I and what other % of us here at ATS could have been Assange if the opportunity to run such a site and get it supported had
Those two people have two very important differences about them from Manning, IMO. They both made no bones to the world about who they were, what they
were and what they did for a living or were doing in conscience. They didn't lie and deceive to avoid detection and hide. Rats hide. People of strong
conscience don't. That's just how I feel about it.
Ellsberg with the Pentagon Papers is also the direct comparison as being the source and leak combined where Assange was just the reporter and one of
many in the end. Ellsberg knew WHAT he was and wasn't releasing. He didn't try and smuggle out everything he could carry from RAND Corp. Although
I'm sure there was more of interest. That's a whole different thread with those people.
The point tho is, he released specific things because his conscience called him to. After reading them and understanding the core issues of Vietnam as
he did, I also would have done what he did.
Manning? Well, good lord. He just data dumped the WHOLE databases for Iraq, Afghanistan and the U.S. State Department he could physically gain access
to and get out the digital back door without getting busted. It took media organizations months to completely analyze and digest it all.
Rumor would have it... some of that State Department "NOFORN" level stuff was really really damaging to the subtle points of good relations between
leaders. Personal level things that did no one absolutely any good to know, never should have been in databases or reports to begin with, IMO but did
a whole lot of HARM by just purging to the public domain blindly.
The enemy of my Enemy IS NOT necessarily
my friend, to the degree that fits. As seems to be the thoughts of some who supporting Manning. Trust
and loyalty to those immediately around him and who depend on him has to mean something. He broke all that and ongoing for time, at that. It's not
academic with shooting wars ongoing, IMO.