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Originally posted by logical7
The idea of Jesus pbuh being god is a serious inconsistency.
the INDISPUTABLE reason anything in the Quran about Allah semi-sounds like the God of the Jews or Christians is because it was PLAGIARISED. When Muhammad made up his religion he STOLE bits and pieces from the Jews, from the Christians, and from the Zoroastrians.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by logical7
The idea of Jesus pbuh being god is a serious inconsistency.
Jesus is God Incarnate. That's the historical documentation (scripture) from first hand accounts and eyewitness'. Jesus Himself said that He came down from heaven. John, Jesus favorite Apostle, said that 'in the beginning was The Word, and The Word was with God, and THE WORD WAS GOD'.
Muhammad wanted to invent a religion and grab power so he couldn't allow Jesus to stay God. He had to water down what Jesus was in order to get people to buy into Islam. So Muhammad faked visions and stole bible stories, POORLY transcribing them over into his made up religion (islam). Now the world has a billion muslims, all getting poorly transcribed teachings about Jesus, and believing exactly what Muhammad wanted ... that Jesus was just a man and not God Incarnate.
If Muslims knew the truth from the first hand accounts - that Jesus is God Incarnate - then islam would immediately fall apart and Muhammad would be exposed as a fraud. I'm sure the hardcore Muslims are frightened at that prospect so they hang on desperately to the "Jesus being not-god' stories invented by Muhammad.
So - believe the first hand accounts and documentation ... (The New Testament)
Or - buy into Muhammads politically motivated and unproven watered down version that was made up hundreds and hundreds of years after Jesus lived.
Common sense ... Muhammads agenda driven stories are false and untrustworthy.
First hand accounts ... Jesus is God Incarnate. THE END.
Originally posted by logical7
and came up with a simple, clear and consistent theory(read my previous post) that makes sense to people from peasants to priests.
I wonder how he 'plagiarised' so well from each religion that he got it correct in one attempt.
Originally posted by logical7
Oh no!, you are telling me to just take your word for it and not think at all.
Hope you did it after objective thinking and not just emotional thinking.
that conveniently gave him massive power and authority.
Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by logical7
6) common sense dictates that either you change your opinions or change your god.
You can't have it both ways either, logical7.
If Allah is the God of the Bible, then that makes Muhammad a false prophet because he contradicted the prophets of the Bible, including Jesus.
So, which are you going to choose? Allah or Muhammad?
You can't have it both ways and Jesus
himself said that he died and then
resurrected.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Where in the Bible does it say Allah is the devil?
Trick question. Allah isn't in the bible .. no matter what the muslim apologists, who seem to come in droves to ATS, claim. Allah and Muhammad .. not in scripture. Period. They are forcing a square peg into a round hole.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by FlyersFan
Allah isn't in the bible .
Allah is the God of the Bible.
Or Allahs titles wouldn't be matching the accounts of the Biblical God... as I've shown in the OP.
And since you hold a low opinion of Moses, why are you even so concerned about the Bible?
What have you to say then of some of the 99 names of allah (hellfire be upon him) that match the biblical names for satan, the accuser?
You can't have your cake and eat it too. What about those titles/names?
Originally posted by Deetermined
Well, either Muhammad or Jesus is wrong.
What about "Great Deceiver"?
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Originally posted by kingofmd
I thought you were going to say:
Lucifer, Satan, Baal, Beezlebub, the deceiver etc.
Fooled me
And who told you Allah was the devil? The church? America? Mommy and daddy?
Where in the Bible does it say Allah is the devil? Or is this your own interpretation through the lens of a bacteria sized context?
Islam didn't crop up until 600+ years of the new testament being completed.
The bible does speak about false gods, and the people that serve them
Originally posted by kingofmd
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Originally posted by kingofmd
I thought you were going to say:
Lucifer, Satan, Baal, Beezlebub, the deceiver etc.
Fooled me
And who told you Allah was the devil? The church? America? Mommy and daddy?
Where in the Bible does it say Allah is the devil? Or is this your own interpretation through the lens of a bacteria sized context?
If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...
Sorry to burst your bubble, but Johnny come lately Islam didn't crop up until 600+ years of the new testament being completed. So no, it doesnt name allah outright.The bible does speak about false gods, and the people that serve them (Not that you care, since you have such a low view of the bible, be sure to read my signature)edit on 19-1-2013 by kingofmd because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by kingofmd
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Originally posted by kingofmd
I thought you were going to say:
Lucifer, Satan, Baal, Beezlebub, the deceiver etc.
Fooled me
And who told you Allah was the devil? The church? America? Mommy and daddy?
Where in the Bible does it say Allah is the devil? Or is this your own interpretation through the lens of a bacteria sized context?
If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...
Sorry to burst your bubble, but Johnny come lately Islam didn't crop up until 600+ years of the new testament being completed.
If Muslims knew the truth from the first hand accounts - that Jesus is God Incarnate
Originally posted by FlyersFan
This isn't rocket science. And as far as emotional attachment to an easily debunked religion .. you'd best go look in the mirror ... it sure isn't something I have to worry about.