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posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 05:01 AM
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reply to post by WaterBottle
 


I guess I should have clarified. My comment circled around the word "assume". No one should ever assume anything no matter what it is about.




posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 05:02 AM
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There is no need to shoot wolves - they are more scared of you then you are of them. Shooting in the air would scare them. The fact t hat you think they should have a bullet to their head makes you cruel and lacking any feeling of empathy.

I never said you were city folk. I asked you what you would do in a situation where you had the choice to use a firearm to protect yourself or the animals under your care. You did not answer.

'Shooting in the air'? Nooo - not an option - and let's not go much further without reminding everyone that shooting in the air is an extremely irresponsible and dangerous use of a firearm.

See, you can judge all you want but you were not there.

I was.

I had to make the choice. I made the choice only after animals under my care were injured. That was MY fault. I should never of hesitated the first time.

Will I ever shoot a wolf for fun? Never. Pressed into the same situation again where I had to make a hard choice between a wolf and preservation of the life of the animals I'm responsible for? Yes. And I'd do it again.

Again - good choices can be made by any person in charge of a tool whether that’s a car, a knife, or a gun. But it’s the person who makes the choice - NOT the tool.

peace

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posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 05:02 AM
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Originally posted by WaterBottle
You wouldn't even want to use a semi-auto if a bear was ready to eat you...what if it jammed?

I'm gonna assume that's what you mean by "powerful weapon".

edit on 19-1-2013 by WaterBottle because: (no reason given)


You tap the magazine to make sure its seated, rack the slide and pull the trigger. Pretty simple.



posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 05:03 AM
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Originally posted by WaterBottle

I agree.

My uncle was a trophy hunter and had a bunch of bear rugs, exotic gazelle heads from Africa, buffalo, hanging on the walls all over his house. It never set right with me.

I don't see how people take pride in killing animals then hang their carcasses on the wall like it's a trophy. It's just creepy.

But if you're walking around in the woods and a bear charges you, then shoot if by all means. Relying on a semi-auto in that type of situation is just dumb though.


Well, you answered yourself. Your Uncle did consider them trophys. I never understood why people did that myself and I'm a hunter.

If your Uncle ate what he killed, I'm fine with that. If he killed just to put a rug on the floor or a head on the wall, then me and him would have words.

I eat the meat of what I kill and sell the pelts, so it's a win-win for me.



posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 05:03 AM
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Originally posted by HelenConway

Originally posted by wewillnotcomply666

Originally posted by HelenConway

Originally posted by wewillnotcomply666

Originally posted by HelenConway

Originally posted by wewillnotcomply666

Originally posted by HelenConway
reply to post by 1YellowRose
 


why do you have to kill sentient creatures - it is disgusting and evil.
Why not just scare them away and lock your meat up properly.
I hate this ' lets kill anything that moves ' mentality.


Yeah thatmakes sense.

Scare a pack of wild wolves away by yelling and waving your arms about ?

Pretty sire if you do that , your only presenting yourself to them as a meal lol. They are not scared easily.

A little lead pellet in the head ,on the other hand, changes everything.

Countless people would be dead by now if they took your advice, sometimes animals need to be shot .

Are you a vegertarian?

If not , then what you eat HAS BEEN KILLED ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

Go look at some videos of slaughterhouses electricuting sheep/pigs/cows to death and then come back and tell me that shooting it wouldnt have been a better idea...

The OP probably puts food on YOUR table . Ignorant city folk haha


God bless firearms.


Listen mate !
What makes you think I am city folk ????
I admit I have spent alot of my life in London, but I have also spent alot of my life in the country - and not just in England.

There is no need to shoot wolves - they are more scared of you then you are of them. Shooting in the air would scare them. The fact t hat you think they should have a bullet to their head makes you cruel and lacking any feeling of empathy.


You misunderstand me .

I am not suggesting that they be shot instantly with out first trying other options.

I am saying that sometimes there is no choice.

And how the hell would you know wether or not a pack of hungry wolves would run away from the SOUND of a gunshot ??

I dont carewhat you say , if a wolf was coming at me , or my meat, (the op was talking about them going after her meat) , thats threatening my life and my income , and i WILL shoot it .


Of course they would - they are scared of humans - people like you have hunted them to extinction once before - there are streets in American lined with the bones of wolves. Few creatures have been so cruelly treated by man.

They are beautiful and misunderstood by the people who are not connected to this planet. I will always stick up for the right of a wolf over the right of someone like you who wants to casually slaughter them...


Bull# . If they are hungry enough they will not be scared.

Also, fool, i never once said i would get enjoyment out of shooting a wolf nor did i advocate "casually slaughtering" them.

I said if one was coming at me , id shoot it .

Do you mean to tell me , that if a pack of hungry wolves were charging at you, you would happily lay down your life so the precious wolf can eat you ?


No I would not - but that is rarely the reality of the situation is it - how often have you been charged by a pack of hungry wolves ???


Never , but that is not the point . Just because you or I have never been chased or attacked by them , does not mean that others have not/ will not be .

Obviously, the OP HAS been in a similar situation or she would not have brought it up .

Are you saying that she shouldnt have the right to protect herself from dangerous animals on her property just because YOU have never been put in that situation before?

Some of you people baffle me .



posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 05:05 AM
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Originally posted by angrysniper

Originally posted by WaterBottle
You wouldn't even want to use a semi-auto if a bear was ready to eat you...what if it jammed?

I'm gonna assume that's what you mean by "powerful weapon".

edit on 19-1-2013 by WaterBottle because: (no reason given)


You tap the magazine to make sure its seated, rack the slide and pull the trigger. Pretty simple.


It's called S.P.O.R.T.S

Slap, Pull, Observe, Release, Tap, Shoot



posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 05:07 AM
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Originally posted by TDawgRex

Originally posted by angrysniper

Originally posted by WaterBottle
You wouldn't even want to use a semi-auto if a bear was ready to eat you...what if it jammed?

I'm gonna assume that's what you mean by "powerful weapon".

edit on 19-1-2013 by WaterBottle because: (no reason given)


You tap the magazine to make sure its seated, rack the slide and pull the trigger. Pretty simple.


It's called S.P.O.R.T.S

Slap, Pull, Observe, Release, Tap, Shoot


Thats a mouthful. I'll stick with tap rack bang.



posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 05:08 AM
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Why do people not feel the suffering of animals - just because group think has brainwashed those people into thinking it is ok - it is not. I feel when other creatures suffer, be it a human or a sparrow. Cruelty to animals is something which makes me believe that some people on this planet are feelingless robots.

I sincerely believe that some people are not connected to their soul or life force.

How can you live somewhere like that Silo ? I would be suicidal having to be so close to so much suffering.
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posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 05:10 AM
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I am saying that people who 'hunt' for fun or kill any creature who walks across their parameter is cruel and nasty. But hey we have to share the world with such people.

Yellow Rose I do not believe is cruel she has already said that she loves animals and is kind to them.

I am saying only if your life is really and I mean really threatened should you shoot.



posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 05:13 AM
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Tap & Rack doesn't always produce a bang if you have a older or fouled weapon. Hence, the observe part and tap part.

But SPORTS is pretty much specific the the AR type platform. You can do it faster than you can say it once you get the muscle memory down.



posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 05:17 AM
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I have read somewhere that plants also produce electrical impulses when being pruned or harvested. That could be construed as pain by some.



posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 05:20 AM
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Hang on - you have provided a picture of you having slaughtered an animal. That disgusts me.
Men with guns are so brave v small animals.



posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 05:22 AM
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You hunting bears and predators outside your house in podunk town is a conspiracy how? And call me crazy but I'm pretty sure Obama isn't banning all guns. Just the assault rifles.


If you bothered to watch the vid that YellowRose posted you might understand how it's a conspiracy. The vid is almost 17 minutes long and you posted a reply 2 minutes after this thread became active. I'm guessing it took you about a min to write your reply so that left you an additional full min to read and ponder what was in the op. I'm going to assume that's why you made the mistake of saying she needs her guns to hunt predators when she clearly said to protect herself from predators.

You really should take the time to watch the vid. The person in the vid explains how the media uses words like "assault rifles" to scare and confuse people that are uneducated about guns. I remember a post someone made in another thread here on ATS that said "You can put a ferrari body on a chevrolet but it's still a chevrolet.

He makes another great point about any American citizen that attacks or attempts to change the 2nd amendment is a traitor and should be treated like one. This applies to gov. officials also.

YellowRose, I'm flagging your thread because I believe more people need to be aware of what "assault rifles" actually are. Thank you for your post and don't hold it against the city slickers. Their worries don't include wild animals.



posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 05:24 AM
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Originally posted by TDawgRex
reply to post by HelenConway
 


I have read somewhere that plants also produce electrical impulses when being pruned or harvested. That could be construed as pain by some.

I know. I actually believe trees are sentient. We live in a cruel world whereby we have to destroy to survive,
second line
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posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 05:27 AM
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Originally posted by HelenConway
reply to post by Bob Sholtz
 


Hang on - you have provided a picture of you having slaughtered an animal. That disgusts me.
Men with guns are so brave v small animals.


They're trying to troll you.

They are the same type of corn ball that goes "PEOPLE EATIN TASTY ANIMALS hurhrurhur"...


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posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 05:30 AM
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Originally posted by WaterBottle

Originally posted by HelenConway
reply to post by Bob Sholtz
 


Hang on - you have provided a picture of you having slaughtered an animal. That disgusts me.
Men with guns are so brave v small animals.


They're trying to troll you.

They are the same type of corn ball that goes "PEOPLE EATIN TASTY ANIMALS hurhrurhur"...


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I am ? I don't think so - I think seeing a man with a gun leaning over an animal he has just slaughtered makes me feel ill. I am not trolling,



posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 05:31 AM
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No. THEY are trying to troll YOU.



posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 05:33 AM
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Originally posted by WaterBottle
reply to post by HelenConway
 


No. THEY are trying to troll YOU.


Oh I see

If that is the case then I know what he is going to say next as well ' tomatoes have feelings too '
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posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 05:44 AM
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Originally posted by bknapple32
reply to post by wewillnotcomply666
 


Calling a person fool is a bad way to get a point across

All you gotta say is, when it's me or the animal, ill shoot and choose me every time.


I agree and admit i should not have said it. However, i do not take it back . In my opinion , the person i was talking to , was being foolish .



posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 05:49 AM
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Originally posted by HelenConway
reply to post by wewillnotcomply666
 


I am saying that people who 'hunt' for fun or kill any creature who walks across their parameter is cruel and nasty. But hey we have to share the world with such people.

Yellow Rose I do not believe is cruel she has already said that she loves animals and is kind to them.

I am saying only if your life is really and I mean really threatened should you shoot.


You also said something along the lines of "people like you". Directed at me.

I love animals , i grew up on a farm. I volunteer at the local wildlife park and actually go out of my way to find injured animals near our local lookout hill where kids like to throw rocks or shoot arrows at koalas and wombats and take them to the rescue shelter or, if possible,look after them mself.

"People like me" like to hunt and kill for pleasure you say?





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