posted on Jan, 22 2013 @ 04:01 AM
reply to post by Ghost375
If you look at the original meaning of left and right wing, before it was twisted to suite authoritarian agendas, you are correct...
The original political meanings of ‘left’ and ‘right’ have changed since their origin in the French estates general in 1789. There the
people sitting on the left could be viewed as more or less anti-statists, with those on the right being state-interventionists of one kind or another.
In this interpretation of the pristine sense, libertarianism was clearly at the extreme left-wing.
The conservatives are of course right wing, but so are the liberals by the original definition. Anti-statists were the socialists and anarchists (the
extreme of socialism and the left). Libertarianism in that quote of course meaning anarchism, not American right wing "libertarianism" which is not
libertarian at all, and fits firmly on the side of authoritarianism.
Conservatism was all about maintaining the status-quo through authoritarianism. Liberalism was about appeasing the working class by creating a social
safety-net, but also maintaining the status-quo. The political battle in the 1800's was not between liberalism and conservatism, it was about
authoritarianism, and statism, of capitalism against the anti-statist socialist working class. A lot of liberals came from the conservatives, such as
Winston Churchill. They saw it as a way to protect the status-quo (down down, deeper and down, sry lol), to appease the workers enough to keep them
So basically now they have you all arguing over nothing of real importance because liberalism will never go away, the real establishment conservatives
wouldn't want it to.
150 years of Libertarian
This year, 2008, marks the 150th anniversary of the use of the word “libertarian” by anarchists.
As is well known, anarchists use the terms “libertarian”, “libertarian socialist” and “libertarian communist” as equivalent to
“anarchist” and, similarly, “libertarian socialism” or “libertarian communism” as an alternative for “anarchism.” This is perfectly
understandable, as the anarchist goal is freedom, liberty, and the ending of all hierarchical and authoritarian institutions and social
One of the reasons all this get's confused is because people look at history through the context of modern pedestrian definitions of terms. You have
to use, and understand, the definitions that were in use then.
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