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Feminism & The Downfall Of The Traditional Family

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posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 08:04 AM
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Originally posted by chasingbrahman

Originally posted by resoe26

Originally posted by chasingbrahman

Originally posted by Ireminisce

Originally posted by resoe26

Originally posted by Whosthatgirl
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Absolutly right!! That is exactly how I feel, if they would man up just a bit they would get all the respect in the world. However too many if them just want a slave and thats what women object to.


That is what I stated in the opening of the thread, that many men do not have that type of confidence in these days or are lazy.

Then the next question, why are men lacking in confidence?


Because they feel they're no longer needed. Their primary purpose in the family has been filled by women.


Ding! Ding! Ding! We've got a winner!

And after their race to become the arrogant jerks they envisioned all men to be, the women sat around wondering why the men didn't feel so confident...

Feminism preyed upon the bad-apple scenario. It wasn't all men that women were running from. It was about 2 or 3%. Not enough to justify altering a culture. I hope this doesn't sound condescending, but I've felt a sort of pity for men nowadays when it comes to defining their own roles in society and family. I think some of them just have no idea what they've done wrong or how to proceed.


Bet you don't have a boyfriend/husband.
If you do I bet he is a pushover.


Resoe, I don't think you're understanding the intent of my post. It isn't being said with a tone of sarcasm, as your reply suggests. Instead, it's a criticism of women who, after beating men down for three decades, are now standing around scratching their heads wondering where all of the confident men went. I sincerely believe men, en masse, may be in the midst of an identity crisis because women have literally tried convincing themselves that men are extranneous creatures who bring nothing to the table, and that couldn't be more wrong.


Oh. My apologies!!!
I agree with you.
Well said!!!!!




posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 08:09 AM
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Originally posted by chasingbrahman

Originally posted by resoe26

Originally posted by chasingbrahman

Originally posted by Whosthatgirl
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Oh, where to start?? Well you could go and practise your grammer and then get your spell checker working for a start. As for women being demonised for wanting more in life than cleaning up after your butt, is it any wonder??

Women mearly want the same options available in life as men. Oh and by the way before you start with your rubbish in defence of all those poor men, I am a stay at home mum and married.



Dear Supporter of Spellcheck,

You need to upgrade your version. That is NOT how to spell "merely".

Signed,
A woman smart enough to be with a man who does traditionally masculine work because his hands and shoulders are twice the size of my own, and in return, demonstrate I'm a bad*** cook who knows how to show some appreciation and gratitude. And I Indian leg-wrestle.


Dear woman,

Shouldn't you be in the kitchen right now?
Pardon me, I didn't utilize my spell check because usually when I post, I am doing it rather quickly. (I know how to spell merely by the way). You're just looking for anything you can grab so that you may TRY to look smarter I suppose. Silly woman.

Oh and this Man you speak of (I assume your boyfriend or husband), you say he is so muscular eh?

Who gives a flying efff. Do you know how I look?

Indian leg wrestle? Why don't you try boxing.


Wow. I thought I'd seen it all. But I hadn't.

Our OP, Resoe, has now taken to flaming even the people who agree with him. Or did Resoe's wife take over the keyboard? Resoe, if you're there, you're a man who believes in maintaining the somewhat more traditional roles between men and women, right? If this is correct as your OP alludes, then someone has either (1) taken over your account or (2) taken over your little fellas. I'm curious which one, but of course you have your right to privacy.


My apologies once more Chasing. Didn't understand your stance at the subject. Pardon me as well for the whole "woman" remark. My juevos are still attached by the way (my fellas)

--Guess I got carried away when I was getting attacked by the femenistas. Know what I'm sayin?
I feel bad for the guys that are in marriages or relations that put up with the nonsense. And I don't see why they do it.

Which you know, is some of the questions I have been asking.
Salud to you though.



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 08:13 AM
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I edited my original post Resoe, deleting my erroneous verbal flaying of your response. Perhaps we were both a bit quick on the draw here. Feel free to remove my potty-talk from your post. I should have realized people who were responding to your had gotten you into a tailspin. They had me in one, too!



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 08:15 AM
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Originally posted by chasingbrahman
reply to post by resoe26
 


I edited my original post Resoe, deleting my erroneous verbal flaying of your response. Perhaps we were both a bit quick on the draw here. Feel free to remove my potty-talk from your post. I should have realized people who were responding to your had gotten you into a tailspin. They had me in one, too!


I certainly was quick to draw. Much apologies.
Not quite sure why I get so worked up over internet rambling.. but it tends to make me want to punch my computer.
(bad temper... working on it)

I will delete my potty talk though as well.
Once more, my sincere apologies!



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 08:17 AM
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Originally posted by chasingbrahman
reply to post by resoe26
 


I edited my original post Resoe, deleting my erroneous verbal flaying of your response. Perhaps we were both a bit quick on the draw here. Feel free to remove my potty-talk from your post. I should have realized people who were responding to your had gotten you into a tailspin. They had me in one, too!


eeek won't let edit any of my posts from the past.
How do you delete?



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 08:38 AM
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It's obvious to me that just by the title of this thread you are pointing the blame at a specific group. If you are sincere in wanting to discuss the downfall of the traditional family, why not change the thread title to "Why Did the Traditional Family Fall?" and start a separate thread entitled "I Believe Feminism Is To Blame For The Downfall of The Traditional Family". Just saying.



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 08:45 AM
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Originally posted by InTheLight
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It's obvious to me that just by the title of this thread you are pointing the blame at a specific group. If you are sincere in wanting to discuss the downfall of the traditional family, why not change the thread title to "Why Did the Traditional Family Fall?" and start a separate thread entitled "I Believe Feminism Is To Blame For The Downfall of The Traditional Family". Just saying.


Yeah you're right.
"Why Did the Traditional Family Fall?"
This is really what I'm after.
But the reason I put "Feminism" in there is because I was wondering if and I guess assuming that it could have led to the downfall of "traditional" family. I may be wrong though. Just wanted to see other viewpoints as well. But certainly no desire to attack women over thier rights.
--but rather noting that SOME women tend to dominate their male counterparts today, while SOME men tend to be little pushovers. When I think it should be equal. that each partner has a role in family life. A father to be the father and mother to be the mother. But seems more and more that they are pulling a switcharoo...



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 08:50 AM
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I could post rants all day on the types of women I have known and possibly point out WHY it is they are like that. But that would do no good because not ALL women are the same. And I already know there will be haters over it.

But you know in the first post of this thread.. I noted in there something about why men are too feminine now. Is it because there is an increase in fatherless children? Do fatherless young girls that grow up tend to become over bearing to thier husbands/ boyfriends? is there a pattern there? . This to me indicates a cycle of events that just keeps on rolling.
But what caused it?

To me, it's more men fleeing from relationships and not keeping thier responsibilites as being a father. And then another question arises... why are they doing this?



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 08:57 AM
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I'm leaning towards certain types of behaviour being directly related to hormonal imbalances. I would like to see horomonal to behaviour studies done on random individuals of all genders, incuding intersex (the third gender) of all sexual presuasions. Did you know that (high levels) testesterone is also called the promiscuity hormone. This may explain another reason for the downfall of the traditional family.
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edit on 25-1-2013 by InTheLight because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 09:00 AM
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Lol, Male sexuality is more repressed than anything in our current modern era.

Both male and female have the same sex drive, some are better at hiding, some like to gloat.



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 09:02 AM
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Please provide links to the studies proving this, thanks.



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 09:32 AM
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Originally posted by InTheLight
reply to post by luciddream
 


Please provide links to the studies proving this, thanks.




The age of equality Another problem is the emasculation of men, says Jacqueline. “It’s a controversial idea in today’s world of equal rights, but I think somewhere along the way we’ve thrown the baby out with the bathwater when it comes to equality.

Women are becoming more masculine, while men are bombarded with images of the ‘New Age Man’. Both have their pluses and I’m not saying women should be all weak and pathetic while men go all macho, but I do think it’s affecting people’s sex lives.

I’ve had several female clients say to me, ‘He’s just not a man any more, especially not in the bedroom’. But how can they expect that when they’re always telling him to be in touch with his ‘feminine’ side? Talk about confusing!”



By the way, its a woman's section of the website. Written by a women.
Womans Day.. The decrease of male sexual desire.
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posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 09:33 AM
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Originally posted by resoe26

Originally posted by chasingbrahman
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I edited my original post Resoe, deleting my erroneous verbal flaying of your response. Perhaps we were both a bit quick on the draw here. Feel free to remove my potty-talk from your post. I should have realized people who were responding to your had gotten you into a tailspin. They had me in one, too!


eeek won't let edit any of my posts from the past.
How do you delete?


It's all good Resoe. I think we only get a few hours to edit one of our posts. I was caught in the same debacle a few weeks back when I'd posted my passionate reply in the wrong flipping thread.



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 09:35 AM
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Originally posted by chasingbrahman

Originally posted by resoe26

Originally posted by chasingbrahman
reply to post by resoe26
 


I edited my original post Resoe, deleting my erroneous verbal flaying of your response. Perhaps we were both a bit quick on the draw here. Feel free to remove my potty-talk from your post. I should have realized people who were responding to your had gotten you into a tailspin. They had me in one, too!


eeek won't let edit any of my posts from the past.
How do you delete?


It's all good Resoe. I think we only get a few hours to edit one of our posts. I was caught in the same debacle a few weeks back when I'd posted my passionate reply in the wrong flipping thread.


Oooops...

I bet everyone was confused as hell no?



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 09:36 AM
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Is that from a study or one person's opinion?



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 09:40 AM
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Originally posted by InTheLight
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Is that from a study or one person's opinion?


Good question.

Its actually a research study by the www.ada.edu.au (The Australian Study of Health and Relationships) and not some 3rd party small group.



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 10:12 AM
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Your initial link is to a magazine article, do you have the actual link to the paper, so that I can examine how the study was conducted?



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 10:22 AM
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The initial link refers to the Australian research study..


The real reason many couples don’t have sex is a decline in male desire, not female. Research by the Australian Study of Health and Relationships adds strength to the claim, with almost a quarter of men questioned saying they’d experienced a lack of interest in sex. But what is behind this troubling new trend?


...however, the author's lack of naming the article is giving me difficulty searching for it. i think i narrowed some down, but i might need to read through to see if it is the one.



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 10:48 AM
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Sure, but her/their claim that there is a trend because 25% of men have a lower libido, without previous studies showing less than 25% over a period of time, leaves me suspect. Also, where is their data on physical examinations ruling out physiological causes (e.g. hormonal or disease factors).



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 11:30 AM
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TRADITIONAL FAMILY??



# Man and Woman plus 2.5 children?

# Divorced man and divorced woman plus 2 children each?

# Man and Woman 1 child each and 2 together?

# Widow and 3 children?

# Widower and 2 children?

# Single mother 1 child plus 1expcted?

# Single father of 2 children living with his own mother and father?

# Orphaned young girl bringing up 3 siblings? (not fantasy I know of one)

# Woman and woman with children?

# Man and man with surrogate or adopted children?

# All of the above in mixed nationalities?

# All of the above mixed religions?

With that selection there are surely equally as many males as females involved in raising

children.....TRADITIONAL FAMILY??
No... just diverse.....

But then I think that's what's called evolution





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