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Originally posted by TiredofControlFreaks
reply to post by FriedBabelBroccoli
FriedBabelBroccoli
You claim I was a weak woman and I deserved what I got. Wrong, I was (and am) a very strong woman. Strong enough to take a beating to avoid having my children starve. Strong enough to escape a sociopath without assistance from either friend or family. Strong enough to educate myself, get a good career, take my children from poor class to middle-class. Strong enough to do it without child support or alimony (not enforceable in my day).
Strong enough to stand up to an extreme bully without help from anyone.
BTW - sociopaths are very very charming people (until they have you in a vulnerable position).
Tired of Control Freaks
Yet more than 200 studies have found that women initiate at least as much violence against their male partners as vice versa. Men account for about a third of domestic-violence injuries and deaths. Research shows women often compensate for their lack of physical strength by employing weapons and the element of surprise
. . .
The most recent large-scale study of domestic violence was conducted by Harvard researchers and published in the American Journal of Public Health. The study, which surveyed 11,000 men and women, found that, according to both men’s and women’s accounts, 50 percent of the violence in their relationships was reciprocal (involving both parties). In those cases, the women were more likely to have been the first to strike. Moreover, when the violence was one-sided, both women and men said women were the perpetrators about 70 percent of the time.
New research from Deborah Capaldi shows the most dangerous domestic-violence scenario for both women and men is that of reciprocal violence, particularly if that violence is initiated by women. Moreover, children who witness their mothers assaulting their fathers are just as likely to assault their intimate partners when they are adults as those who saw their fathers assault their mothers.
Professor John Archer from the University of Central Lancashire has conducted a number of meta-analytic reviews of these studies and found that women are as likely to use domestic violence as men, but women are twice as likely as men to be injured or killed during a domestic assault. Men still represent a substantial proportion of people who are assaulted, injured or killed by an intimate partner (50%, 30% and 25% respectively).
If the empirical research is correct in suggesting that between a quarter and half of all domestic violence victims are men, a question follows: why has women's domestic violence towards men been unreported for so long, and what has changed in the last five years to make it more visible?
One reason may be the feminist movement. Feminism took up the cause of domestic abuse of women in the 1970s, with the world's first women's refuge being opened by Erin Pizzey in 1971. Feminism understood domestic violence as the natural extension of men's patriarchal attitudes towards women, leading men to feel they had the right to control their partners, using violence if necessary.
. . .
Men were also unlikely to view their own victimisation as either domestic violence or a criminal assault, and so were unlikely to seek help.
Modern feminism is an ever-evolving movement dependent upon necessity. Just look at the women in India struggling to have their laws changed due to lack of safety
Originally posted by resoe26
Is that right bub?
What holes in my argument?
And what questions have I avoided.
Originally posted by resoe2625 years old and I can promise you, I know more about woman than you.
Originally posted by resoe26Please don't sit there and act like you have met me personally
Originally posted by resoe26Pleasesir/ma'am. Have a little respect at least.
Originally posted by InTheLight
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
Not any more, if a woman hits a man, she will be hauled away to the hoosgow...the law is the law, no matter which gender you happen to be.
Originally posted by ihavenoaccount
reply to post by LadyGreenEyes
I think you missed my point. All I'm trying to get at is this. It should be the individual woman or man that defines femininity or masculinity for themselves. As long as they respect the freedom of others, that should be okay, and they are no less of a man or woman for it.
But I would like to hear a story about the feminists who outright say they want to be like men. Surely those are transgender people?
Originally posted by FriedBabelBroccoli
If you do realize the meaning then why did you bother to make some diatribe about evolution?
These are statistics from a government funded study with commentary by a trained professional.
Originally posted by FriedBabelBroccoli
The causality here being that the couple divorcing and thus becoming single parents directly relates to poverty which is also directly (a.k.a. not inversely) relates to crime.
Are you indicating that it is better for a parent to place their children into poverty so that the parent can be more happy? Obviously there are exceptions such as abusive relationships. Basically you are justifying the selfishness of the parent placing their own wants over their child's.
Originally posted by FriedBabelBroccoli
BTW the article was about the decline of two parent families, meaning two parents in the household raising a child. Why are you trying to turn it into a poverty issue?
Originally posted by InTheLight
Again, I say this thread is a blame game and there seems to be no genuine desire from some to intelligently discuss real facts and statistics as to the evolution of the nuclear family.
Originally posted by paganini
Originally posted by resoe26
Is that right bub?
What holes in my argument?
And what questions have I avoided.
Try looking back through the pages of this thread. Your op was continually pointed out as being illogical,
-How bout you tell me what you deem to be irrational.
Originally posted by resoe2625 years old and I can promise you, I know more about woman than you.
How? You were in the military for what i would assume were a few years and you got married upon leaving. That would not leave you with a wealth of experience and time to get to know a variety of women.Again your story does not add up and leads one to question whether your "theories" are a result of your frustration due to you not being desirable to women in the past or like many men who exhibit misogyny it was merely a learned behavior from a father figure leaving you to merely regurgitate what you were told.
The latter makes sense especially as you seem to be enamored with the good old days and traditional values even though of course you are obviously far too young to know what they were like and thus would have to depend on an older person filling your head with stories of the era.
--Yes a 4 year vet from the Army. And you believe I haven't been with a variety of women? I mean I'm not going to sit here and brag or anything... But maybe you understand machismo?
-And those good ol days, yes I have experienced them. I have grown up in it. I lived in Mexico nearly every summer since I was 5 years old. (not your stupid tourists areas) I'm talking about Real Mexico. Were the traditional family had remained prevelent. This is why I can make conclusions and observations on family life here. Any hispanics in this thread? They would much agree.
-It is not my problem if you want to trip out because you grew up with a single parent or never experienced "traditional" family life. Unlike most Americans, as I have once stated, us folks with culture tend to admire our family. We try to keep it "traditional". We don't throw our parents in nursing homes because we don't want to deal with them when they are older.
I could point out differences all day, but honestly, I believe you will still disagree so eff it cono.
Originally posted by resoe26Please don't sit there and act like you have met me personally
Why not? You are sitting here acting like you have met ( And I'm quoting you here) almost every single female in your age group and thats fine. But someone analyzing your behavior is a no no?
-Sure analyze if you must. (I'm giving you permission now)
I'm simply making observations on the MANY females I have met, have dated, etc. And I am almost certain I said "the majority of them" but you must have jumped over that part
Originally posted by resoe26Pleasesir/ma'am. Have a little respect at least.
respect isn't given its earned.
-Indeed
Originally posted by resoe26
Was it not recently that women in the military were given the green light to be in combat situations??
Wouldn't want to be in that outfit.
I don't know many women that have the strength to drag a battle buddy to safety while getting shot at.
At least Spec Ops is still sane
Originally posted by eletheia
Originally posted by resoe26
Was it not recently that women in the military were given the green light to be in combat situations??
Wouldn't want to be in that outfit.
I don't know many women that have the strength to drag a battle buddy to safety while getting shot at.
At least Spec Ops is still sane
This is your thread in "Relationships" ???
Titled
"Feminism and the Downfall of the Traditional Family"
I would say your post is OFF TOPIC !!