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Originally posted by LesMisanthrope
That's not what I said. I said discrimination of masculinity is akin to discrimination of women. It's the same thing. I suppose one must take their blinders off to see that.
Feminism is the same as Masculinism. It is the exact same as that which they fight against—inequality.
No, THIS is where im losing you. If you want to "serve" your husband then go for it, its your life you do as you please. But i respectfully disagree with your way of thinking. I could not live under the thumb of someone who made decisions about my life regardless of what i wanted/needed.
Human's learn fear that usually stops people from getting themselves into sticky situations. Women are perfectly capable of being strong and fending for themselves, perhaps you under-rate your average female's physical strength? And to assume the safety of all members of the tribe was only down to the men would be an ignorant statement to say the least.
So women have to LEARN the instinct to protect then?
Nope. The reason why women are not as strong as men is because our reproductive organs demand we carry more fat than muscle. Men don't reproduce, therefore they don't have to store excessive fat in case they get knocked up. Nothing to do with "protection"
Explain why post-natal depression exists then? Because surely if it was given that ALL women are nurturer's it wouldnt be a problem for some women?
If men and women are only suppose to act in the way that you state (ie men protect and hunt, women nurture) then why is it we have advanced over millions of years while other members of the animal kingdom have not?
But why is so wrong that someone seeks a divorce because they are unhappy in their marriage? It doesnt effect you and your choice?
And you cant realistically expect to get married and still feel just as in love with someone 25 years later. If you are, well that's great, if not, no hard feelings? Go your separate ways and enjoy your life.
My parents separation and divorce was the best thing that happened in my childhood. I only wish it could have happened sooner tbh.
I still respectfully disagree with your opinion that those increase's are due to a breakdown in families. Im just not convinced its as clear cut as that.
Feminism (grass roots) denotes equal-ism. Masculinism denotes holding authority.
Originally posted by Ireminisce
reply to post by SearchLightsInc
Feminism (grass roots) denotes equal-ism. Masculinism denotes holding authority.
That is completely ridiculous. Why is the movement not called gender equal-ism?
edit on 19-1-2013 by Ireminisce because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by BDBinc
reply to post by SearchLightsInc
No I don't think the feminism movement was about equality. Our society has more inequity than ever.
We are all snowflakes, different and yet we are the same. Anything that doesn't celebrate that truth is negative, such as leading to thinking that we are not equal( causing inferiority complexes which are countered by seeking dominance). Submission and dominance are animal traits.
Originally posted by SearchLightsInc
Originally posted by InTheLight
Originally posted by SearchLightsInc
Originally posted by Ireminisce
reply to post by SearchLightsInc
Perhaps the modern women doesnt want to stay at home and raise a family for you?
If a woman doesn't want to raise children, then this thread doesn't even apply to her. Don't have children. Simple as that.
How do you get that? Feminism is about All women, not just the ones that want children
I wonder if Ireminisce's husband would get her a beer?
edit on 19-1-2013 by InTheLight because: (no reason given)
I wonder if drinking a beer would detract from her delicate feminine qualities that are oh-so important?
Originally posted by Ireminisce
I wonder if drinking a beer would detract from her delicate feminine qualities that are oh-so important?
I'm not even sure what this has to do with anything, but I'll answer anyway. I'd hate for people to think I'm just a no fun having slave.
Yes, he'll get me a beer. Even with out me asking. He likes doing nice things for me, and we like to sit around a fire and have a good time together.
As for it detracting from my feminine qualities, I'm not sure about that, but maybe it does. No one's perfect and I'm far from it. I drink Bud light Lime, if that makes any difference. I guess wine in a tiny elegant glass would be more lady like, but I don't like it.
Still trying to figure why my views on this would mean I don't do anything remotely fun or exciting.
Originally posted by Ireminisce
reply to post by SearchLightsInc
You don't have to reply to my long post. I replied to yours, but you shouldn't feel obligated. No biggie. Let's agree to disagree.
Originally posted by Ireminisce
reply to post by SearchLightsInc
Awesome! Glad to see you have since of humor. For my own reputation, I do feel compelled to say I've never done the fox trot and my favorite band is The Red Hot Chili Peppers. Cute joke though, seriously. Anyway, I can respect your views. As I'm sure you can imagine my views are always the minority, even around my own friends, so I'm used to it. You're a great debater and I had fun talking with you.
reply to post by SearchLightsInc
I apologise if anywhere in my replies ive had a poor tone
You cannot argue with the facts. And the fact is, ever since Feminism was introduced and women have gained "rights" (rights that are an illusion to us all, both men and women) the traditional Family lifestyle has been on a steady decline.
If you notice on the majority of commercials and television, Men are downgraded.