Originally posted by Trexter Ziam
Originally posted by thelongjourney
- That the freest people are those who can worship in any way they choose (or no way at all, for atheists).
- That the best way to do good is to do so where possible in secret, not because you are ashamed of your good works but so that you know you do good
things because its the right thing to do instead of for outward praise or recognition.
- That the highest of human virtues is tolerance for all.
... I have no problem giving a black ball any applicant who thinks ...
1. What Are the Requirements of Becoming a Mason?
One of the primary requirements is that a man must believe in the existence of A Supreme Being. Furthermore, Freemasonry requires a Mason to believe
that there is but one God.
2. I agree, a charitable act should be private.
3. Your own quote shows Masonic tolerance ... black balling applicants, and not so long ago, persons of particular races.
1. I didn't say anything that contradicts this requirement.
2. Glad we agree.
3. I think you didn't quite read or comprehend what I stated, or this is sarcasm and I am missing it.
The requirements to be a mason are necessary, but not sufficient in my mind, to pass a unanimous vote of the lodge. For example, to get into a
university in the US you must have a high school degree or GED and pass the entrance exam (SAT or ACT, usually). Those are the NECESSARY but not
SUFFICIENT requirements for admission. In reality, to be competitive for university admissions at top schools, you must do much more. You have to have
a high GPA, extracurricular activities, write a good admission essay, etc.
Likewise - being male, 18 (21 in some jurisdictions), and believing in a Supreme Being are necessary but not sufficient conditions to election to the
degrees in my lodge. That doesn't mean we have secret criteria we don't tell anyone about - its on the webpage and every interviewing committee asks
them about their individual philosophical views. Tolerance for all doesn't mean everyone gets to be a mason. I tolerate Satanists and believe they
have a fundamental right to practice their religion free from oppression, that doesn't mean they get to be masons. And I have no idea what your
comment is about black balling someone because of race, my example was a racist...whose opinions had changed over time. Had nothing to do with his
skin color. In fact, if I had to divide up my lodge by race, we are fairly equal in terms of percent spread across white guys and 3 types of
minorities. If were being racist, someone must have forgot to tell them.
edit on 18-1-2013 by thelongjourney because: (no reason