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Originally posted by Imsodone
reply to post by ownbestenemy
yes, gun violence was never a problem until atari released pong.
Originally posted by ownbestenemy
Originally posted by Imsodone
reply to post by ownbestenemy
No, if they want the tax they will get it. Hollywood will be ignored. The star actors calling for a stop to violence as they shoot 50 people in their next film will be ignored. Movies can't be the problem because they're used as propaganda... like Hitler did. Video games, anything that involves free speech, that's the bad guy! Not the fact that 7 out of 10 americans are on mind numbing hallucinogens. Nope. Video games did it.edit on 18-1-2013 by Imsodone because: (no reason given)
I understand where you are coming from, I do, but the Federal government will have an uphill battle in this regard. For example: cigarettes and alcohol can actually have a detrimental effect and while I disagree with the argument, the excise tax in place does have some footing. As for video games or Hollywood, how can you distinguish the two? You lament about Hollywood but then say video games should get a pass?
I agree with you in the sense that video games are not the cause (but also believe that violent movies/books/plays are also not the cause) but cannot see how you can be so upset about the one and not the other.
Originally posted by Wertdagf
reply to post by Thecakeisalie
Alot of video games get their violence straight fromt the pages of the old testament.
Id agree to a tax on violent video games in exchange for a tax on religion.
Originally posted by XL5
Rezlooper, in that case, we should ban paintball, rubber band guns, cap guns, horror movies and bad thoughts...oh and nightmares.
Mario is violent, he kills bowser to get the princess! Pac-man is too, all he wanted to do is run around some halls eating pills like they are candy, but no, some bully ghosts have to chase him. Then he eats the big pill in the corner and trys to eat the ghosts!
Other then sports, racing,sim and puzzle games, there are just about no games out there that do not involve some sort of killing or using violence to make the bad guys "go away". Honestly think about it and then understand that they will not stop at the really bad games once they have a taste of power. They didn't stop at guns.
Originally posted by Rezlooper
Originally posted by XL5
Rezlooper, in that case, we should ban paintball, rubber band guns, cap guns, horror movies and bad thoughts...oh and nightmares.
Mario is violent, he kills bowser to get the princess! Pac-man is too, all he wanted to do is run around some halls eating pills like they are candy, but no, some bully ghosts have to chase him. Then he eats the big pill in the corner and trys to eat the ghosts!
Other then sports, racing,sim and puzzle games, there are just about no games out there that do not involve some sort of killing or using violence to make the bad guys "go away". Honestly think about it and then understand that they will not stop at the really bad games once they have a taste of power. They didn't stop at guns.
Ridiculous argument. You don't see blood, guts and gore playing paintball. In the 'first person shooter' video games, the more violent the death scene, the better.
Don't worry, banning video games will never happen, but at least admit that they desensitize our children to violence. It's like a pilot learns to fly through a flight simulator, these mass-murderers learned to kill through their simulator, the video games. We provided a fun and exciting training ground to teach these kids how to kill and then we're shocked when they go out and do it. Then we blame the guns.
Just like I said before...the mass murder scene is a re-enactment for these kids as they walk through the scene and pick off easy targets one by one...just like in the video game.
There are other weapons used in these games so even if all the guns were taken away, these deranged video gamer's (and I'm not saying all, only the sick and mentally ill kids playing them) would settle for the other weapons of choice...maybe a sword, knives, slingshots, whatever it may be, to wreak the same havoc they've done with guns. It won't stop because they took guns away...only after they outlaw these violent death scene video games.
As the video games got more violent over the past 15 years ever since the Doom series in the mid-90's, the mass-murderers grew in their shock and awe! It started with Columbine in 1999 and culminates with Sandy Hook. It's almost as if each of these mass-murderers were competing with each other in a video game of life to see who could kill more or shock more! Lanza finally shocked the hell out of all of us when he went after tiny little children. In effect, among the game these mass-murderers were playing, Lanza is winning and it scares the hell out of me to think what the next nut job is planning to top that one off!
Now it's time to turn the game off and taking away the weapons they use isn't the answer - it's the power button on the games themselves!!!
Originally posted by Rezlooper
Ridiculous argument. You don't see blood, guts and gore playing paintball. In the 'first person shooter' video games, the more violent the death scene, the better.
...but at least admit that they desensitize our children to violence. It's like a pilot learns to fly through a flight simulator, these mass-murderers learned to kill through their simulator, the video games.
It won't stop because they took guns away...only after they outlaw these violent death scene video games.
Originally posted by Rezlooper
reply to post by ownbestenemy
Let's not start comparing serial killers and cult leaders to mass-murderers.
Originally posted by Rezlooper
reply to post by Darkphoenix77
Good for you for not being one of the weak-minded, but that's who I'm referring to, the mentally ill who don't need much of a trigger. I'm not saying every gamer is a nut job...my brother is a nut job for games but I highly doubt he would go out on a mass-murder spree either.