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Originally posted by boncho
Originally posted by intelligenthoodlum33
This really sad. No one should die over toothpaste and I am surprised the store and the cops think this is okay.
Just goes to show the state of the world today. Human life is meaningless to so many.
Don't steal. If it were the police that did this I might have something to say. But it wasn't. It was a store manager. If a business owner accidentally kills someone trying to protect their property, oh well. Stop stealing...
I don't have much sympathy for thieves.
Originally posted by Rineocerous
I don't think you understood what I meant by entitlement.. cash registers have nothing to do with it.
I deal with shoplifters every day and they are smug as can be because they "know their rights."
They do it because they can get away with it.. hence why your attitude is part of the problem we face with crime in our society.
He didn't have one tube of toothpaste. From the video and several other articles it would seem he had at least 3 and a box of crayons. I'm not saying that is worth his life.. that's the point.
I can hear you now.. "he just wanted fresh breath and the crayons were for his kids."
He was high as a kite.. again, I deal with these guys all day. Electronics are risky.. timid thieves with warrants for their arrest choose smaller items that won't get noticed. When they come in high they steal really stupid things.
He's been convicted for drugs and burglary before so let's stop pretending he's just a normal guy who needs clean teeth but can't afford toothpaste. If all he needed was to freshen his breath before a job interview I'm sure his mom, dad, or ex-wife could have helped him out with that. He could have panhandled enough change to buy toothpaste in just a couple of hours.
Fences ask for all sorts of stuff. They tell thieves the kinds of things they want.. sometimes the requests are very strange. You keep saying it like it's so weird for him to steal toothpaste.. it isn't. Toothpaste, deodorant, cheese, batteries, chocolate bars, 6.99 DVDs.. these are all common targets.
I don't have any problems with homeless people. I have problems with thieves who are high and attack you when you confront them about stealing from you. I DO NOT think stealing toothpaste is worth dying for.. but I think that responsibility was his. Both men were in the wrong, both men are of no use to our society. On a personal level it's a tragedy.. from where I'm sitting it's a good start. There are plenty of people in the world who get by without victimizing others.. I vouch for those people. If you want to poke the hornet's nest don't expect me to cry for you when you get stung.
The most liberal societies, as nice as they are, have the most human parasites. We allow it and therefor encourage it. What I'm saying is that if that man was afraid to burglar people's homes and rob people's stores he'd be alive today and we'd have less crime. Sounds like a win-win to me.edit on 18-1-2013 by Rineocerous because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by boncho
Originally posted by intelligenthoodlum33
This really sad. No one should die over toothpaste and I am surprised the store and the cops think this is okay.
Just goes to show the state of the world today. Human life is meaningless to so many.
Don't steal. If it were the police that did this I might have something to say. But it wasn't. It was a store manager. If a business owner accidentally kills someone trying to protect their property, oh well. Stop stealing...
I don't have much sympathy for thieves.
My point is that YOU are the problem. YOU and your ilk
Originally posted by MagicWand67
reply to post by Rineocerous
My point is that YOU are the problem. YOU and your ilk
Actually, I think YOU are the bigger problem.
And anyone who uses the phrase "you and your ilk" is obviously spending to much time being a forum troll.
I mean really, who uses that term?
The only time I ever hear that phrase used it is by ignorant, racists who like to spout belligerent nonsense from their keyboard soapbox.
Your comments = EPIC FAILURE
Way to make a strawman out of a single word.