reply to post by razor1000
I've often thought the same thing as you.
I look at a bug or a mouse and I wonder in the large scheme of things if we're any different. A mega advanced alien civilization would probably be as
interested in us as we're interested in bugs.
However, one part of this argument that has a hole is if lower life-forms can't be the center of everything then why do we farm cattle? Why do we have
chickens and pigs in slaughter pens? The irony is that a pig or a chicken might think they're somehow special until they see the grim reality of their
existence. The fact that we're lower than the advanced alien civilization doesn't mean they won't have a reason to farm us. Similarly, the fact that
we're so much lower than them doesn't mean they won't observe us scientifically just as we observe other lower life-forms on earth.
Because we're so much lower doesn't mean we won't get a chance to see signs of other advanced alien civilizations. Just as how a mouse might see a
human, we might see aliens. However, what we can do with that information is probably every bit as limited as it's with the mouse.
I think the reasons people on earth look at things as though humans have an importance is because they want to believe there's more to life than just
living and reproducing and dying. It's why 90% of people believe in God. They want to think there's a larger purpose than just the biological one.
Lets take a step back and be honest. This life ain't that great. If we were significantly more advanced, we'd probably outlaw natural evolution and
view today's world as wild
. Just as we have outlawed rape and yet daily we can see animals raping each other in the zoos. Much of what goes on
in the wild would be considered criminal if humans were doing it. Point is that when a person really digs deeply into the nature of our existence they
see a lot of dirt and gloom and despair. Because we live in this present day world, we have become accustomed to it. Unless we dig too deeply, we're
ok with it, as long as we follow the golden rule as it applies in this present day world. But in another 200 or 500 or 5000 years, it'll no longer be
acceptable what we do today and our values and rules will change. Bottom line, nature is not rainbows and butterflies, it's a lot of murder, rape,
disease, death and terrible disasters. It'll always be that way, no matter how advanced we're. It's just existence.
To my present day mind the highest order of "godhood" is to look at a lower life-form and to see some of myself. If I can cuddle, I will. I know
there's not a lot I can say that they'll understand just as if I met an angel there's very little I would be able to grasp. But we can both understand
simple basic actions that're non-aggressive. If the angel is non-aggressive and seems friendly, that's as much as I will ever need to know. And
repeated contacts seem to highlight that it's a spiritual connection being sought. Much in this world cannot offer me the same connection as when I
"connect" this way. Broadly, reality is a struggle. We all go through it so long as we're alive. If I could push a button and have all our questions
answered and all our misery removed, I would. But I cannot. All I can do is live my life and when the opportunity presents itself connect with
something else that reminds me that we all share this common experience and so we're not alone in our trials.
I hold in the back of my mind the hope that all of this is just a play; a stage; an act; a tour de force; a masterpiece. Maybe when a amoeba or a bug
or a bacterium or a mouse or a horse or a bird or a monkey or a human or a different earth life-form dies they "wake up" and realize they're a member
of a mega advanced alien civilization that reached the limits of growth and now lives an eternity in an endless sequence of reincarnations sprinkled
across ages of time and space forever. But of course it's just a miserable hope that there's more to this reality than the biological one. It's just
me using the God part of my brain to give me an extra kick in my step. In all honesty, I think that there's nothing more than the biological reality
and everything is as it seems. Evolution is the reigning champion. However, I still like to occasionally tickle my imagination and use the God part of
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