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posted on Jan, 18 2013 @ 02:46 PM
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The truth behind the so call gun control scaremongering and the executive directives

Nothing more than an attempt to have legal means to screen all Americans including children for mental illnesses

But is this Obama's fault? people tend to have short time memories, actually the one that started the health screening as a standard option was the then Former President Bush Jr.

What happen to his then agenda? it was targeted as unconstitutional

But it seems that With Obama new health care reform and under the executive orders on gun control, health screening for mental illnesses will be standard procedure and one of the many health screening been push up our butts this days

Who will benefit from it? Pill pushers big pharma and the government that then will have records to decide if you are healthy mentally enough to be on your own without government breathing down your neck

Life in America is getting better and better, all for your safety.

And to think that this is not something that Obama just got out of his butt recently, is been in the making for years

No legislation needed to deem you mentally unstable anymore by your doctor, just standard procedure.





posted on Jan, 18 2013 @ 02:55 PM
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WellI live in chicago, iL. I was on anti-depressant when i was a teen. Does that mean i can't register for a gun?
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posted on Jan, 18 2013 @ 03:00 PM
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The way things are looking like, it will be under your doctor guidance and screening that you will be deemed mentally healthy and stable enough to own a gun.

The sad thing is that this is been already talk about for years.



posted on Jan, 18 2013 @ 03:02 PM
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Dr. Dunegan recounts a speech he heard in 1969 entitled the new world system. The speaker, Dr. Day, told the attendees to turn off any recording devices and not to take notes. The speaker described changes that would take place in society in the coming decades. This interview is a rare glimpse into the inner machinations of the New World Order.




posted on Jan, 18 2013 @ 03:16 PM
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Originally posted by OldSchoolMom


Ha...your all crazy and you can fuss all you want but no one listens to crazies.

Dropping to your knees and repenting is the only thing left to do but that's just crazy huh *shrugs


(forgive my wry humor..just making a point).




And an excellent job you did.




posted on Jan, 18 2013 @ 03:20 PM
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I feel that I am taking the broader view on this. Replacing individual responsibility with government.

It rings true with healthcare.
With gun control.
We cry for government intervention in free speech.
We run to government when we can't find jobs.
When we need to eat.

Our lack of personal responsibility is feeding the beast.



posted on Jan, 18 2013 @ 03:26 PM
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I found the transcript of the tapes, very interesting stuff and the incredible thing is that the scheme is on schedule perhaps with some decade miss in between the agenda but still on schedule

www.savethemales.ca...



posted on Jan, 18 2013 @ 05:46 PM
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Your medical records should be private. Chicago has the tightest anti-gun laws of any major city in the US, and yet their murder rate is through the roof. Furthermore, most of the murders are gang related, and they don't go through registration to get guns anyway, they get them off the street, or steal them.



posted on Jan, 18 2013 @ 05:54 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by beezzer
 


The truth behind the so call gun control scaremongering and the executive directives

Nothing more than an attempt to have legal means to screen all Americans including children for mental illnesses

But is this Obama's fault? people tend to have short time memories, actually the one that started the health screening as a standard option was the then Former President Bush Jr.

What happen to his then agenda? it was targeted as unconstitutional

But it seems that With Obama new health care reform and under the executive orders on gun control, health screening for mental illnesses will be standard procedure and one of the many health screening been push up our butts this days

Who will benefit from it? Pill pushers big pharma and the government that then will have records to decide if you are healthy mentally enough to be on your own without government breathing down your neck

Life in America is getting better and better, all for your safety.

And to think that this is not something that Obama just got out of his butt recently, is been in the making for years

No legislation needed to deem you mentally unstable anymore by your doctor, just standard procedure.



the difference between bush jr. and obama is nothing more than the latter having a grasp of the english language and having the ability to put words together and in the right order which construct coherent sentences.

the whole american landscape is being transformed. people will stop going to the doctor to advoid their bias, judgement and agenda. (hopefully doctors will stand up for their patients) even more people will turn to other, underground sources for their medication.

what happens when the definition of "assault weapon" gets a facelift by the government and handguns are deemed "assault weapons"? is this not the next step? will the ban on assault weapons (currently) eliminate shootings? will no one every perform a mass shooting with only handguns? did it not come out in multiple sources that Lanza used ONLY handguns? it doesnt take a genius or fearmongering or whatever to see where this mindset/ideology/paradigm will lead us.



posted on Jan, 18 2013 @ 06:08 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer
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I feel that I am taking the broader view on this. Replacing individual responsibility with government.

It rings true with healthcare.
With gun control.
We cry for government intervention in free speech.
We run to government when we can't find jobs.
When we need to eat.

Our lack of personal responsibility is feeding the beast.


don't forget sense of entitlement, short-sightedness and need for instant gratification. its too bad that this environment was built around us, in pieces, with most unaware of the possible consequences. i really feel terrible for the future generations. the question i was pondering earlier today - we will be more free or less free at the end of obama's 2nd term? the answer is obvious



posted on Jan, 18 2013 @ 07:23 PM
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We run to government when we can't find jobs.
When we need to eat.


We run to the private sector who in turn are not interested in paying anyone enough to live on, in fact they prefer to hire prison and slave labor here and abroad. They ran in droves to the government throwing money all kinds ways in order to buy laws that favor them and to purchase the propaganda that it is our fault, we are lazy, we don't want to work... only to be taken care of.



posted on Jan, 18 2013 @ 07:31 PM
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Originally posted by six67seven
the question i was pondering earlier today - we will be more free or less free at the end of obama's 2nd term?...
the answer is obvious
Alex, I'll take Correct Answers for a Thousand.

"At the End of Obama's Second Term, There Will Be More American's Alive".



posted on Jan, 18 2013 @ 07:32 PM
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i really feel terrible for the future generations.
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That is the reason my wife and I are so concerned. We have lived most of our lives, but our children and our grandchildren are the ones that are suffering now, and will suffer even more in the future, unless things turn around drastically, and I don't see that happening peacefully.
A star for you for caring about future generations. I wish more people felt that way.



posted on Jan, 18 2013 @ 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by Tw0Sides

Originally posted by six67seven
the question i was pondering earlier today - we will be more free or less free at the end of obama's 2nd term?...
the answer is obvious
Alex, I'll take Correct Answers for a Thousand.

"At the End of Obama's Second Term, There Will Be More American's Alive".


Well to get that answer, you would have to change the question I was pondering.
-200 for you



posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 01:04 AM
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The government won't ban guns, they will just create a system where no-one will be eligible to own one.


Yes, I'm afraid you are right, and besides it will just create a huge black market for guns used by civilians. The Russian people had black markets for things like blue jeans. Also the Beatles music was banned in Communist Russia. (The Soviet Politburo thought rock music would corrupt the citizens).
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posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 02:32 AM
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Obama can write executive orders until he is blue in the face; unless individual states agree to them and use their own resources to police and enforce it, it won't change anything. Unless they try to revoke states rights, they themselves can't afford or have enough man power to enforce these orders. It's now the war on guns, since when has the government declaring war on anything; stopped whatever it was? All it does is create more problems and a larger black market.

Government is itself insanity; because it keeps doing the same things over and over, expecting a different outcome each time. It also keeps looking for answers; in the same place they know the answers couldn't possibly be. Now who should have it's guns taken away?

I really love that Constitutionalist is on the list; it just goes to show when; a government thinks the people that founded this country, and anyone that supports what it was founded on, as an enemy; they have gotten quite a bit out of hand yeah? I just can't stop shaking my head and feeling a bit ashamed.

Any country out there need a kinda handsome, college educated man, retired aged 40, not afraid of hard work or taking responsibility, that only eats one large meal a day, drinks alcohol maybe twice a year, uses no drugs nor has any health problems, with a lot of skills such as auto, motorcycle, appliance repair, and can build a house with his own two hands from the foundation up and more, that has strong interpersonal and communication skills? If so and you respect your citizens PM me.



posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 02:37 AM
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hmm well if you consider the 'deviant theories' everyone should feel very alarmed at these thresholds.

15 years ago, it was considered deviant for a woman to leave an abusive husband...

society determines what is deviant from the norm and if by chance your wearing a pink tshirt and your a man...well you could be vulnerable to any label.

now it is considered deviant for a man to hit his wife...

if the majority consider some behaviour strange or different...then that is deviant = mental health issue etc.



posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 02:41 AM
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Originally posted by Thurisaz
reply to post by beezzer
 


hmm well if you consider the 'deviant theories' everyone should feel very alarmed at these thresholds.

15 years ago, it was considered deviant for a woman to leave an abusive husband...

society determines what is deviant from the norm and if by chance your wearing a pink tshirt and your a man...well you could be vulnerable to any label.

now it is considered deviant for a man to hit his wife...

if the majority consider some behaviour strange or different...then that is deviant = mental health issue etc.



The latest? If you are not into social media, if you don't have Facebook and other nonsense. Welcome to Devianceville, have a seat your nurse will be with you shortly.



posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 07:54 AM
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I think you meant to say State Capitalist Russia.



posted on Jan, 20 2013 @ 06:49 PM
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I have paranoid schizophrenia the second amendment don't apply to me I'm exempt from it. I was diagnosed 17 years ago. I haven't had any symptoms in 15 years. I love to hunt but I can't buy my own guns. I have my family members buy them for me usually my uncles. When my mom divorced my step dad she got all of his guns in the divorce. She gave them to me. I sold most of them but I kept 8. I've never been a danger to myself or others and my family knows this.

Just because someone has schizophrenia doesn't mean they're a murderer. I had some pretty bad hallucinations and delusions when I was coming down with this illness. I had access to my step dad gun cabinet the whole time. It never crossed my mind to use any of his guns. No matter how sick I got I knew better then to hurt people.

I questions how ill some of these mass murderers actually are. What Lanza and Holmes did took some planning and calculating. I know when I was suffering from psychosis there is now way I could have planned what they did. My thoughts were extreemly disorganized I could barely tie my own shoes. I think Holmes and Lanza are nothing more then cold blooded killers. No different then to shooters at Columbine.





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