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47 States Revolt Against Obama Gun Control

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posted on Jan, 20 2013 @ 03:53 AM
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reply to post by Semicollegiate
 


Kind of like a drawing of the past
nothing wrong with that so long as you are drawing a correct image


the image you are drawing in this thread isn't even close.


but you seem to be a sheep about putting them together
and just how did you reach that conclusion ?


I'm not saying that you are wrong
good, cause apparently, we both know better.


just that historically speaking, you get your protien from a pet food bowl
this is relevant to the topic how




posted on Jan, 20 2013 @ 04:10 AM
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Originally posted by Honor93
reply to post by Semicollegiate
 

if you read anything about the developers, you'd know differently.
with or without WWI, advancement in arms was well underway.
the war merely hastened the ongoing progress.


So if the inventor was not inspired to invent, somebody else would have invented the exact same gun. Every communist knows that.


so long as that 'field' was in WWII, i would agree


I never said otherwise.


and yes, that was the big shift but there have been others.
i disagree that the GD was a 'last chance' ... we did fine without banks for many years, we should do it again and preferrably sooner vs later.


I'm not sure it can be done any more. I don't think the majority will have the opportunity to learn how to think before last event horizon.
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posted on Jan, 20 2013 @ 02:03 PM
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reply to post by Chrisfishenstein
 


Our forefathers didnt know jack # about assualt rifles. They had long guns that had to be loaded one bullet at a time with powder to follow. Hard to shoot someone ten times with a long gun. Our forefathers would turn over in their graves seeing what has happened to this country. Do you really think they would support going to a public theater and shooting up the place ? You have a right to do that?



posted on Jan, 20 2013 @ 02:04 PM
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reply to post by Chrisfishenstein
 

Gee just stamp your feet and hold your breath while your at it. You're about that mature now arent you?



posted on Jan, 20 2013 @ 02:54 PM
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Originally posted by karen61560
reply to post by Chrisfishenstein
 


Our forefathers didnt know jack # about assualt rifles. They had long guns that had to be loaded one bullet at a time with powder to follow. Hard to shoot someone ten times with a long gun. Our forefathers would turn over in their graves seeing what has happened to this country. Do you really think they would support going to a public theater and shooting up the place ? You have a right to do that?


Yes they would, but not for what you are proclaiming. The 2nd isn't for personal defense or hunting or shooting, it is there so the public can be armed to stop a tyrannical government.

They would be horrified that people are willing to give up personal liberty for some vague sense of security. Which is all this gun talk is about - people get all emotional that bad things happen to good people, that being free sometimes has a hefty price tag.



posted on Jan, 20 2013 @ 04:10 PM
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reply to post by Semicollegiate
 

speculataion has no relevance to the conversation.
no other inventor came close so i'm gonna stick with a not likely outlook.

and what does 'every communist knows' have to do with this conversation ?

oh but you did, you actually insisted it was involved with the trench battles of WWI ... at least we both know you were wrong.

hmmmm, no couth or class, eh ?

did it ever occur to you that it is inconsistency, unwillingness to recognize your own value and a defeatist attitude that feeds their power ??

perhaps, when that changes the old adage will prove true ... starve the beast and it will die a natural death. which is why i applaud however many thousands gathered to remind the beast, we are one, we are strong and we will prevail.



posted on Jan, 20 2013 @ 04:19 PM
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Very litlle media coverage is correct from what I'm seeing, but not surprised.

I won't matter, and anyone who thinks the people will stand by and allow these idiotic moves to take our guns to continue ARE MISTAKEN.
LEAVE THE GUNS ALONG........



posted on Jan, 20 2013 @ 07:01 PM
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Obama having a foreign sounding name has increased weapons sales to new heights, the NRA has taken Americans' fear of him to boost gun sales like crazy: record breaking gun sales after both of his electoral victories. He did absolutely nothing to curb or stop the second amendment during his first 4 years. In fact, he didn't even bring up the fact that the ATF is seriously underfunded n without a real director until a bunch of mass shootings happened. His BS executive orders are to placate his democratic supporters. He's one of the most centrist democrat I've ever seen: NDAA, assassinating American citizens abroad as terrorists, bombing a bunch of Muslim countries without a declaration of war and putting more money into US defence than any other president. So calm down he's not coming for ur guns, the dude's barely a liberal by political scientific standards



posted on Jan, 20 2013 @ 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by karen61560
reply to post by Chrisfishenstein
 


Our forefathers didnt know jack # about assualt rifles.


They didn't know anything about automobiles and airplanes either, so we should ban those as well.



posted on Jan, 20 2013 @ 11:34 PM
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Second Amendment
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Yeah and the military of the time were also armed with muskets. Are you saying If the need comes to defend ourselves from a tyrannical government armed with aircraft, tanks, missiles and fully automatic weapons that a black powder musket should suffice? Not even gonna comment on your ridiculous accusation directed towards semi-auto gun owners.
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posted on Jan, 21 2013 @ 02:03 AM
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From what I heard, the registry of firearms will give them the list of people to disarm and this is only step one. Step 2 is to critique a list of medication and if you have ever been prescribed any of them, like a felon, you are not allowed to own a firearm. In the end, it will be an ideal tyranny with an unarmed populace who cannot defeat it.



posted on Jan, 21 2013 @ 03:44 AM
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Originally posted by Honor93
reply to post by Semicollegiate
 

speculataion has no relevance to the conversation.

no other inventor came close so i'm gonna stick with a not likely outlook.

and what does 'every communist knows' have to do with this conversation ?


Speculation has conditional relevance. Choose whether it is worth your time to think about.

I don't want to go too far away from the OP, here is the explaination of the communist comment.

The collectivist/communist/socialist view of history maintains that individuals are completely and solely a product of their times and their social class. Any great person or inventor could be interchainged with some other person from the same generation or historical period and everything would be more or less the same. This view is the opposite of the great person view of history.

BTW They, (the collectivists, not TPTB), use their point of view to say that patents are unjustifiable because-- the knowledge inventions are derived from is the property of the human race and any invention will be invented eventually.

In the book "The Sources of Invention" by John Jewkes, David Sawers, and Richard Stillerman, the authors state that inventors do provide a unique service to humanity by inventing their technology sooner rather than later.
A gift of time.

You implied that the tommy gun would have been invented without its actual inventor, which is something a communist would agree with.





oh but you did, you actually insisted it was involved with the trench battles of WWI ... at least we both know you were wrong.


Cut and paste where I said that the Thompson was used in WW1.

I said, conceived, in WW1.

and since I knew that to be true, and wiki said that also, I used the wiki article for quick reference.

What in the wiki article was incorrect? You said



www.abovetopsecret.com...

you totally disregard history for Wiki ???


I suppose Wiki could be incomplete, biased, and maybe out right wrong, but we both know that article was essentially correct in that it states that the Thompson Submachine Gun was invented because of, and to some extent during, the Great War.




did it ever occur to you that it is inconsistency, unwillingness to recognize your own value and a defeatist attitude that feeds their power ??

perhaps, when that changes the old adage will prove true ... starve the beast and it will die a natural death. which is why i applaud however many thousands gathered to remind the beast, we are one, we are strong and we will prevail.


Good for You

Good luck and may the Wisdom of the Ages find you by the light of the internet.



posted on Jan, 21 2013 @ 05:16 AM
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To follow up on this story, here are some of the pictures from state capitols around the country, and some of the signs displayed.

www.theblaze.com...

"I'd rather be a conservative nutjob than a liberal with no nuts and no job"

PRICELESS.



posted on Jan, 21 2013 @ 05:27 AM
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It's rather insensitive don't you think? Liberals and conservatives alike are jobless. And it's nothing to mock. Kicking someone when they're down. Stay classy"conservative" (to the guy with the sign not you)
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posted on Jan, 21 2013 @ 10:10 AM
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I got a kick out of this pic and wanted to add it to this thread...



posted on Jan, 21 2013 @ 11:29 AM
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The first amendment (and the rest of the Bill of Rights) supports our right as human beings to remain free.

The second amendment guarantees our ability to defend our freedom when peaceful actions no longer work, with an organized militia. Above all else, our freedom must remain intact. That is what the founding fathers envisioned.

While I feel most of what is being offered up by the government as solutions are superficial and reactionary to just placate those crying for something to be done, I do believe everyone needs to pay attention and make sure what is passed is logical and not meant to lessen our rights. I'm not THAT concerned with what is being reviewed, but as always the public needs to stay rational, involved, and informed on what is going on.

I firmly believe that, in the end, if something doesn't pass the common sense test, it should be heavily scrutinized.

-Dredge



posted on Jan, 21 2013 @ 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by MajorKarma

In your attempt to show you can Google the best, you have cut and pasted an opinion written in 2008, whereas my quotation was from 2010. More important, you chose to cut and paste only that portion you thought would serve your "Gun Grabbing Agenda". Nevertheless,here is the complete opinion of which you omitted some significant points:


I chose the original Scotus case of Heller 2008, because the 2010 case you reference was a challenge to that ruling and the excerpt I included was affirmed...

But if your ears are plugged unless I stick to the 2010 ruling...that's OK too..

Your cited case...McDonald v. Chicago - 2010


The plurality decision also reaffirmed that certain firearms restrictions mentioned in District of Columbia v. Heller are assumed permissible and not directly dealt with in this case.

Such restrictions include those to "prohibit...the possession of firearms by felons or mentally ill" and "laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms

en.wikipedia.org...

So the 2010 Scotus ruling affirmed the restrictions of the 2008 Heller ruling.




In your attempt to show you can Google the best, you have cut and pasted an opinion written in 2008


See above...2010 & 2008...2010 ruling affirmed the 2008 ruling..


More important, you chose to cut and paste only that portion you thought would serve your "Gun Grabbing Agenda".


"Gun grabbing agenda"?? Alex Jones is that you?

Let me know if you want to skip the BS, baiting, false assumptions and discuss facts. Until then, not much to discuss.



posted on Jan, 21 2013 @ 11:54 AM
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What a fantastic reply.

You make a lot of sense. I hope others can gain new insight from your view. The whole world should pay close attention to what is going on. Always question everything.




posted on Jan, 21 2013 @ 12:03 PM
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Originally posted by JuniorBeauchamp

Originally posted by karen61560
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Our forefathers didnt know jack # about assualt rifles.


They didn't know anything about automobiles and airplanes either, so we should ban those as well.


Nor did they know anything about arms such as Thermo-Nuclear weapons. At what point do we acknowledge the spectrum of weapons modern technology makes available and have a grown-up discussion about what and what not should be subject to restriction. A discussion...lest you forget that the closest anyone has come to banning assualt weapons is the President ASKING CONGRESS to consider an assault weapons ban. A discussion...one that doesn't involve a mix of apocolyptic tyrannical fantasy and outright dishonesty.

Frankly, as someone who supports the 2nd Amendment and owns guns, the inability of the NRA and the fringe of it's following to have a debate centered on reality is shocking.



posted on Jan, 21 2013 @ 12:49 PM
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Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by JuniorBeauchamp

Originally posted by karen61560
reply to post by Chrisfishenstein
 


Our forefathers didnt know jack # about assualt rifles.


They didn't know anything about automobiles and airplanes either, so we should ban those as well.


Nor did they know anything about arms such as Thermo-Nuclear weapons. At what point do we acknowledge the spectrum of weapons modern technology makes available and have a grown-up discussion about what and what not should be subject to restriction. A discussion...lest you forget that the closest anyone has come to banning assualt weapons is the President ASKING CONGRESS to consider an assault weapons ban. A discussion...one that doesn't involve a mix of apocolyptic tyrannical fantasy and outright dishonesty.

Frankly, as someone who supports the 2nd Amendment and owns guns, the inability of the NRA and the fringe of it's following to have a debate centered on reality is shocking.


Why do many of those in favor of more strict gun control always start throwing around words like, nukes, RPGs, tanks, and heavy artillery???

Have you ever been to a grenade range? Or, how about a public tank course? Do those who have jumped through the hoops to own certain weapons above a firearm, practice using them for defense?

I can not picture a scenario where I would look down at my rifle and think, Boy! I wish I had a mortar right now!

Guns and other weapons should be available to ANYONE who has not proven that they should be restricted against owning them. If you want to own a grenade launcher, GREAT! Can you afford a tank? Swell! But are you going to use either of those, EVER, in defense of your personal liberties? Highly unlikely....

Can you carry a LAWS in your backpack while going to the store? Or, drive a SCUD launcher to work, maybe? But, anyone THAT paranoid should probably be scrutinized a bit more thoroughly, for the right to own weapons at all.

Common sense dictates, that while the need for protection exists, because irradication of evil seems impossible, convenience of the choice of weapon, is the determining factor.

SO please!...Stop patronizing law-abiding citizens and apply a little logic to you argument...You may actually see things a bit differently, during the process.







GF~



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