Wyoming Law Will Prosecute ATF and FBI Enforcement of Unconstitutional Gun Laws

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posted on Jan, 17 2013 @ 03:56 PM
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I've been getting that a lot, as I have noticed a lot of other members who stand up to the gun nuts get it also. I think that's just another nonsense way you gun nuts try to look like you have the upper hand. Kind of like a bully says to his victim before he beats the crap out of him for daring to be different.
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posted on Jan, 17 2013 @ 03:58 PM
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Why are we gun nuts?

Who gave us that name?

Just because I own a gun I'm automatically a psychopath hellbent on destruction?

I don't know why you hate guns so much, but I need them to feed my family so my opinion may be jaded there..

Still you bash guns when you directly benefit from them every time you set foot in a grocery store....

And then.. you take a state like Wyoming.... with no crime and a ton of guns.. and you still sit on your high horse.
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posted on Jan, 17 2013 @ 03:59 PM
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Thought you weren't taking me seriously?


Amazing how the gun nuts get all uppity when they feel slighted but feel free to dish it out to everyone else....



posted on Jan, 17 2013 @ 04:00 PM
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And again there we go with the Gun nut thing....

You must live in a big city and not have to worry about starvation... enjoy your overpriced beef and chicken.



posted on Jan, 17 2013 @ 04:01 PM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Jan, 17 2013 @ 04:07 PM
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Actually yes.. cmere you big lug......

ahhh that's nice....

But seriously.. the reason I defend guns with such fervor... is because they supply me with most of my food supply every year...

I'm sure even the most anti-gun left wing socialist would get mad if you just took a nice fat steak off their plate.



posted on Jan, 17 2013 @ 04:15 PM
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Thing is, and not a single member here has asked me about it since this gun debate began, is that I rather enjoy shooting guns. I used to go fox, rabbit and kangaroo hunting with my grandfather as a kid and I've actually been meaning to get a license to buy a rifle and go hunting but its one of those things I haven't gotten around to as I live in suburbs atm. When I move to the country I will definitely be doing this.

The difference between me and the gun advocate crowd, however, is that I, and all other hunters I know, don't see the need to use an assault rifle when a .222 or a .303 with a scope will do the trick just as well (.22 in the case of a rabbit or you just end up exploding him)

A lot of people would know this about me here by now if only they had stopped their "gun hater" nonsense and actually just asked me in a polite fashion.
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posted on Jan, 17 2013 @ 04:20 PM
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Only thing I've really ever used that type of rifle for in a practical sense is coyote culling... Those suckers run fast after that first shot so it helps to have a semi auto with 30 rounds... same with wolves... A lot of times you'll see them in large packs...

Other than that... I can see where you are coming from..

I guess my big thing is I don't think the many should suffer the sins of the few....

I'm sure bolt action hunting rifles will not be on the list anyway.... but it's the whole point of the matter.

This ban isn't really a solution for anything anyway although I'm sure many advocates think it will be..

Sure it will pass and people will feel safer for a second.. but psychopaths will still shoot up schools and gang bangers will still do drive by shootings whether they are banned or not..

The thing that gets me is I think the anti-gun crowd knows this deep down but won't admit it.
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posted on Jan, 17 2013 @ 04:28 PM
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Anyhoo, now we've cleared that up I really should get some sleep. I've gone and done my usual thing and thought to myself "just another hour then ill go to bed..............aaaaaaaaand it's dawn!"

Either that or ill just stay up all day and try to get to sleep early tonight lol. Nah, sleep beckons.
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posted on Jan, 17 2013 @ 04:52 PM
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Why is it that in every one of these threads, it is stated that something has been "signed into law?" Nothing has been signed into law. It has been proposed, and that's as far as it has gotten to date.

Even if it does, good luck with enforcing it. No Federal agent is going to be incarcerated by state officials for carrying out Federal law. How are those state marijuana laws working out in regards to the Feds just letting them do their thing?



posted on Jan, 17 2013 @ 04:58 PM
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There was a write up in the paper here that says it was signed into law.. I can't find any online msm articles though about it..

You'd figure something like this would be bigger news..
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posted on Jan, 17 2013 @ 05:10 PM
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Actually correction:


According to the Casper, Wyo., Star-Tribune, the law takes effect in July and consumers could purchase guns immediately under the exemption from the state's sole firearms manufacturer, Freedom Arms, which makes revolvers in the $2,000 price range.

The newspaper reported authorities already have discussed the possible scenario of a local Wyoming sheriff
arresting a U.S. marshal.

"That's a question we've sort of asked ourselves," John Powell, a spokesman with the U.S. attorney's office in Cheyenne, told the paper. "We're not exactly sure how this is going to play out."

State Rep. Alan Jaggi, R-Lyman, told the newspaper there could be confrontations.

"I think it could be a possibility if we had some overzealous – do I want to say bureaucrat? – that would just say, 'Hey, we're going to show these states we have all the authority,'" Jaggi said. "States' rights – I'm willing to say that's important enough to us to do it." |WND|


Source

I know it's a blog but it quotes the Casper Star Tribune one of the major papers here in Wyoming so.

I may be able to find the actual paper and scan it in.... so until then..



posted on Jan, 17 2013 @ 05:59 PM
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Great topic. I've been waiting to hear more about Wyoming on this issue. I have always admired your states stance on firearms. I just hope that your state doesn't end up getting too many folks moving in from elsewhere to escape guns laws and bans. If the place were to get overpopulated, crime would almost certainly increase. More people,more bull#.It could ruin the states awesome reputation. We have constitutional open carry here in Ohio. But you don't really see folks exercising that right..you can end up with more hassle than you bargained for. I would like to see my state take a similar stance on concealed carry,and on the gun control issue,but I wouldn't get my hopes up. Cheers Wyoming S&F



posted on Jan, 17 2013 @ 07:22 PM
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Way to go Wyoming!!! I live in Colorado but let me tell you what I am not opposed to moving up there if this keeps up! I am just wonder how long it will be before there is another civil war in this country



posted on Jan, 17 2013 @ 07:36 PM
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They raise a very important question in that and it's a dead serious one.

What exactly DOES happen if the ATF goes into a home/compound in Laramie or Cheyenne with their usual convoy of doom ('ala Waco) and ..knowing they're in a potentially hostile state to begin with....have a few helicopters of additional agents in Fort Collins on standby to come up and assist?

What does the Laramie county Sheriff do when he's out-manned, out gunned and generally at the mercy of a far stronger force? I mean we're all discussing this in the context of polite society where all laws matter and would at least be given lip service between Law Enforcement agencies. What if..that's assuming a bit much for how the ATF would stage a raid in Wyoming if they decided they needed to, and knew what may come at them in advance?


Perhaps Wyoming needs to look into having it's own equivalent with State Marshals.State Agents who carry basically the same God like powers of Jurisdiction and ordering other law enforcement to assist without having to file requests and justifications for it as the Federal counterparts?

It might go differently if a "Wyoming Marshal" were there and could literally, with a couple phone calls, have the whole departments of Cheyenne, Laramie and smaller ones in the County rolling with state police and all at full speed. It might be the whole difference of it working or being the shortest state protest in history?



posted on Jan, 17 2013 @ 09:06 PM
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Awesome... This is exactly what needs to happen, but not just on guns... on EVERY unconstitutional federal law or executive order. The answer lies within the state legislatures... it always has. Now if only Virginia would do this.



posted on Jan, 17 2013 @ 09:19 PM
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Wyoming is the smallest state in the Nation by population.

People are so scattered in Wyoming...honestly...who cares? It's not even worth talking about what the hell Wyoming is doing...no one cares.
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posted on Jan, 17 2013 @ 11:41 PM
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AMEN!....And Ummm, Pass Me That Box .223's Will Ya, I Hear There's A Storm Brewing. Wyoming Folks Should Be Extremely Proud...W0W! I'm Here In Connecticut...Don't Even Get Me Started. Our Governor Is A 'Bama Wanna Be, I Kid You Not. It Is Good to hear and see people finally get up and shouting that they are not gonna take it anymore... God Bless America....And Special Kudos To That Great State!!!



posted on Jan, 18 2013 @ 01:13 AM
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Originally posted by xedocodex
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Wyoming is the smallest state in the Nation by population.

People are so scattered in Wyoming...honestly...who cares? It's not even worth talking about what the hell Wyoming is doing...no one cares.
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Please, please keep thinking that and stay as far away from here as you can..

I'll keep my clean air, not fluoridated crystal clear water and beautiful countryside to myself thank you.

No one cares anyway..

I'll think about you while I enjoy my nice peaceful firearm filled lifestyle.

P.S. We aren't as disconnected as you think...
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posted on Jan, 18 2013 @ 01:21 AM
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I'm in Montana too


And I share your sentiment.





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