Obama calls for study on gun violence, video games.

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posted on Jan, 17 2013 @ 09:48 AM
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lets see, I take the SAME SSRI's they said these killers took, play violent shoot em up games, I am a veteran (which they say is another reason), and havent hurt a fly...well maybe a fly or two, but you know what i mean...
So no, I dont believe these things cause people to snap, i think they would have done it anyhow, games meds or not




posted on Jan, 17 2013 @ 09:51 AM
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I know right? They're just grasping at anything, while stories like the embassy shooting and fast and furious gets swept away and forgotten.



posted on Jan, 17 2013 @ 09:53 AM
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I believe the CDC study will include many other possible causative factors in gun violence, other than video games. That was just one example of what could be analyzed.


Gun violence researchers have no shortage of questions that the CDC could now investigate. Garen Wintemute, who heads the Violence Prevention Research Program at the University of California, Davis, wants to examine the value of California's efforts to recover firearms from people who bought them legally, but subsequently became ineligible to own a gun because they were convicted of a serious crime.

"We need to know whether that intervention – which is expensive and potentially risky – actually works," Wintemute says.

Another important question is over the degree of risk posed by people with a history of alcohol abuse owning guns. That could be studied if the CDC restored questions about gun ownership to its Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System, the main survey used by the agency to investigate how risky behaviours may lead to disease, injury and death. These were removed after Congress pressured the CDC to abandon gun research.


www.newscientist.com...



posted on Jan, 17 2013 @ 10:12 AM
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Originally posted by kaylaluv
I believe the CDC study will include many other possible causative factors in gun violence, other than video games. That was just one example of what could be analyzed.


Gun violence researchers have no shortage of questions that the CDC could now investigate. Garen Wintemute, who heads the Violence Prevention Research Program at the University of California, Davis, wants to examine the value of California's efforts to recover firearms from people who bought them legally, but subsequently became ineligible to own a gun because they were convicted of a serious crime.

"We need to know whether that intervention – which is expensive and potentially risky – actually works," Wintemute says.

Another important question is over the degree of risk posed by people with a history of alcohol abuse owning guns. That could be studied if the CDC restored questions about gun ownership to its Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System, the main survey used by the agency to investigate how risky behaviours may lead to disease, injury and death. These were removed after Congress pressured the CDC to abandon gun research.


www.newscientist.com...


Everyone has breaking points. We live in a 300+ million population with a failing economy. There is going to be violence.



posted on Jan, 17 2013 @ 10:43 AM
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How about people with a history of alcohol abuse owning CARS!

There are a 'Sandy Hook's' worth of people(27 on average) killed every day due to drunk driving.

Wouldn't it make sense to concentrate on something that kills more people than guns???



posted on Jan, 17 2013 @ 10:59 AM
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Wow...let's just blame anything and everything for our woes. Weak minds that are going to pop and go violent are going to do so regardless what the "catalyst" might be.

It'll be another marketing boom, just like gun sales. If people think they are going to restrict violent video games, people will be running out and buying them up just to have them. Like guns, they are seemingly trying really hard to create another black market item...make something illegal and watch the price and demand soar...the criminal minds and organizations loves crap like this.



posted on Jan, 17 2013 @ 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by kaylaluv
 


How about people with a history of alcohol abuse owning CARS!

There are a 'Sandy Hook's' worth of people(27 on average) killed every day due to drunk driving.

Wouldn't it make sense to concentrate on something that kills more people than guns???


Deaths due to drunk driving have been greatly reduced since harsher penalties have been enforced, and the inception of Mothers Against Drunk Drivers (raising awareness). Maybe we need a new group - Mothers against Mass Shooters (MAMS).



posted on Jan, 17 2013 @ 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by kaylaluv

Originally posted by butcherguy
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How about people with a history of alcohol abuse owning CARS!

There are a 'Sandy Hook's' worth of people(27 on average) killed every day due to drunk driving.

Wouldn't it make sense to concentrate on something that kills more people than guns???


Deaths due to drunk driving have been greatly reduced since harsher penalties have been enforced, and the inception of Mothers Against Drunk Drivers (raising awareness). Maybe we need a new group - Mothers against Mass Shooters (MAMS).

Greatly reduced.
Yet they still outnumber gun deaths.

Don't bury the ugly truth in feel good talk.

Address the issue that kills more people.

You are 9,000 times more likely to die because of a doctor making a mistake when he treats you.... than to be killed by a gun.



posted on Jan, 17 2013 @ 12:04 PM
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10 Million dollars wasted. It's digital versions of cowboys and indians...and games are rated like movies, kids can't buy those games, parents have to for them. I am for smart regulations, but this is situation where games developers have done everything needed for parents to step up and be parents.



"I have a 12-year-old and he likes to play all those games and they're all rated 'mature'," said Karen Weathington, a mother of five children, including three boys.

Weathington notices a change in their behavior when they play certain games.

"When they play fight and wrestle, it's the mocking of slicing someone or with a gun. As a parent, it kind of concerned me, should I take the games away?" said Weathington.

www.fox47news.com...

WOW...this POed me!! The games are rated...Does she also buy pornography for her son? effen unqualified to be a parent.

I have a buddy that plays GTA for hours on end...using a flame thrower to light up cops etc...he also "live traps" mice in house to release them outside....catches house spiders and lets them go outside...literally wouldn't hurt a fly. Anecdotal, I know, but this seems a study aimed at placating parents...then again it is a "study" and i expect the results will show what everyone knows already...

BTW - How does the CDC plan on conducting the study?



posted on Jan, 17 2013 @ 12:10 PM
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Originally posted by butcherguy

You are 9,000 times more likely to die because of a doctor making a mistake when he treats you.... than to be killed by a gun.


All opinions aside....and assuming the number wasn't made up for rhetorical purposes...when you are in front of a doctor, you are already more likely to be dead soon as you are there for a reason.

Let me look up some numbers..

Ok..looks like Medical errors are equal to auto accidents?
www.gao.gov...



posted on Jan, 17 2013 @ 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by butcherguy
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How about people with a history of alcohol abuse owning CARS!

There are a 'Sandy Hook's' worth of people(27 on average) killed every day due to drunk driving.

Wouldn't it make sense to concentrate on something that kills more people than guns???


10k per annum in Drunk Driving deaths
32k Firearm deaths per annum (11k Homicides...30k Suicides)

Wouldn't it make sense to give guns just a smidgen of the attention we give drunk driving?



posted on Jan, 17 2013 @ 12:17 PM
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Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by butcherguy
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How about people with a history of alcohol abuse owning CARS!

There are a 'Sandy Hook's' worth of people(27 on average) killed every day due to drunk driving.

Wouldn't it make sense to concentrate on something that kills more people than guns???


10k per annum in Drunk Driving deaths
32k Firearm deaths per annum (11k Homicides...30k Suicides)

Wouldn't it make sense to give guns just a smidgen of the attention we give drunk driving?

Maybe when cars and alcohol have Constitutional backing.

ETA: Try adding in the rest of alcohol-related deaths.... BAN ALCOHOL!
edit on 17-1-2013 by butcherguy because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 17 2013 @ 12:20 PM
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It's not only parents allowing it, it's the stores not abiding by their policy and the ESRB rating. Walmart is especially bad for this. Video games may be now demonized because of irresponsible vendors and parents.



posted on Jan, 17 2013 @ 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by jazzguy
hollywood is where the problem lies, with games you have to buy them..
but with television you get it pumped into you for free.



PEOPLE are to blame not the Games or hollywood. everyone is responsible for themselves.



posted on Jan, 17 2013 @ 01:30 PM
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People are not to blame for Hollywood and the media taking advantage of mans base instinct that has existed since man existed. We eat the violence up because it is in our nature to. They profit from it knowing full well that we can not help ourselves. If everyone really wants that peaceful existence we need to stop feeding the base instinct for violence that is ingrained in all men, it exists simply because we needed it for survival. They do not HAVE to take advantage of the fact simply for profit.



posted on Jan, 17 2013 @ 01:40 PM
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There is nothing wrong with doing a study to help prevent violent deaths. Such a study would go a long ways toward making people understand that guns and video games are not the real reasons we have the violence. Not sure why anyone would have a problem with such an exercise, unless they were unable to think properly and then we would have to do another study on why many people with guns cannot think logically.



posted on Jan, 17 2013 @ 03:06 PM
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Originally posted by HomerinNC
So no, I dont believe these things cause people to snap, i think they would have done it anyhow, games meds or not

So what's wrong with doing a study on it?

In scientific fields, you don't just look at anecdotes, you do studies on issues.



posted on Jan, 17 2013 @ 03:30 PM
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GEES OF F***!!! When can we expect an effing ban on video game shooters and movies?? My lord this man has gone Bat $HIT INSANE!!!

Talk about going out of your last term with a freaking BANG (pun intended).....


Someone or should I say some group of people needs to stop this evil madness!! Shootings have gone on forever, and will always go on forever, no matter what STUPID laws this guy thinks will work....

It is my forefathers given right to own a gun......And since I work for my money (and pay Obama's salary) I can buy whatever video game and movie I want WITH MY MONEY!!!!

Work on getting the US jobs, not taking them away by banning guns and entertainment.......This is madness, this is blasphemy......MADNESS?? THIS IS USA!!! (sorry had to throw the 300 quote in there somewhere....lol)




posted on Jan, 17 2013 @ 03:31 PM
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Take my guns, i dont have any. But don't lay one finger on my video games!


Originally posted by HomerinNC
lets see, I take the SAME SSRI's they said these killers took, play violent shoot em up games, I am a veteran (which they say is another reason), and havent hurt a fly...well maybe a fly or two, but you know what i mean...
So no, I dont believe these things cause people to snap, i think they would have done it anyhow, games meds or not


Maybe you haven't snapped yet. Haha
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posted on Jan, 17 2013 @ 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by Ghost375

Originally posted by HomerinNC
So no, I dont believe these things cause people to snap, i think they would have done it anyhow, games meds or not

So what's wrong with doing a study on it?

In scientific fields, you don't just look at anecdotes, you do studies on issues.



Why doesn't Obama do a study on how to create more jobs? How about a study on why we are so far in debt? How about a study on the Federal Reserve?

There are much more important issues to focus on here, he is like a bloodhound with a scent on guns......Go find something better to do BARRY.....





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