Originally posted by WaterBottle
No one is banning all guns.
Don't know where this idea came from.
The Obama administration is actively engaged in negotiations to finalize details for a new global agreement premised to fight “terrorism”, “insurgency” and “international crime syndicates”. As U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon describes its purpose, “Our goal is clear: a robust and legally binding Arms Trade Treaty that will have a real impact on the lives of those millions of people suffering from consequences of armed conflict, repression and armed violence…It is ambitious, but it is achievable.”
former U.N. ambassador John Bolton, caution gun owners to take this initiative seriously. He believes that the U.N. “is trying to act as though this is really just a treaty about international arms trade between nation states, but there is no doubt that the real agenda here is domestic firearms control.”
The constitutionality of the 1934 act was upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court in 1939, in U.S. v. Miller, in which Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s solicitor general, Robert H. Jackson, argued that the Second Amendment is “restricted to the keeping and bearing of arms by the people collectively for their common defense and security.”
Furthermore, Jackson said, the language of the amendment makes clear that the right “is not one which may be utilized for private purposes but only one which exists where the arms are borne in the militia or some other military organization provided for by law and intended for the protection of the state.” The Court agreed, unanimously. In 1957, when the N.R.A. moved into new headquarters, its motto, at the building’s entrance, read, “Firearms Safety Education, Marksmanship Training, Shooting for Recreation.” It didn’t say anything about freedom, or self-defense, or rights.
Originally posted by blupblup
To be fair, individuals don't have the right (as intended) to own guns. Not every household was supposed to own guns and guns were not supposed to be so widespread... it was for militia to protect the state.
In 2008 and 2010, the Supreme Court issued two landmark decisions officially establishing this interpretation. In District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), the Court ruled that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to possess a firearm, unconnected to service in a militia and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home. In dicta, the Court listed many longstanding prohibitions and restrictions on firearms possession as being consistent with the Second Amendment.
Originally posted by phishyblankwaters
reply to post by WaterBottle
No one is banning all guns. Don't know where this idea came from.
the right wing blogosphere, that's where. No one is coming to take your guns, even weapons that would be "banned" won't be confiscated, you'll keep your guns. they will just be regulating the type of guns and accessories you can purchase from that point on.
It's fiscally impossible for the US government to confiscate your guns. Use some logic once and awhile.
the biggest threat to America is the people promising violent revolution should gun control laws be passed or amended. Those people are the threat, those people will be the ones responsible for your loss of liberty.
Originally posted by Logman
2nd Ammendment is not being broken.
Americans can still bear arms.
Obama is not confiscating any guns.
The fact that most Americans don't understand this is very telling. A lot of stupid people own guns.
Originally posted by txinfidel
reply to post by txinfidel
Let me reiterate this. For the sake of clarity.
If the President, or Congress orders any type of gun confiscation on a state or national level. It will divide the police and military in two.
Why isn't this thread getting any attention?
Originally posted by WaterBottle
reply to post by EyesWideShut
lol.... I guess I forgot the 1994 Assault Weapon Ban banned all guns
Oh wait..... it didn't ban or confiscate any existing guns. All it did was ban certain semi-autos from being created.
edit on 17-1-2013 by WaterBottle because: (no reason given)