Originally posted by FyreByrd
Originally posted by Son of Will
If you are actually interested in health, you would stay away from meat and dairy altogether. Even eating organic, free-range livestock is directly
linked to a laundry list of diseases, including the top killer in the USA, heart disease, as well as diabetes and a long list of cancers. There is an
especially strong link between dairy and breast cancer in women.
It's certainly healthier to eat cleaner meat, but the meat itself is probably doing just as much damage. If this is news to you, I suggest reading
The China Study.
And where is the link? Where are your sources.
Humankind evolved eating meat... and diary products have been a stable for millennia. The problems with meat and dairy come from the chemicals,
drugs and practises of factory farming to increase yield and profit for the industry not from unpolluted sources.
The link? Read the last sentence of my post. The China Study is the largest epidemiological study ever conducted on human nutrition. It is quite
famous in nutrition science and finding info on it is not difficult. (Okay it's more a reference than a link
But on a handheld, posting proper
links poses unique problems)
First of all, dairy was not a common food staple until very recently in our history. Until domestication of animals, also very recently in our
history, consumption of meat was quite rare. Our physiological adaptation to consuming them has been minimal, but even that is a moot point because of
my following point.
Second of all, humans evolved to procreate. We adapt to our environments only to the extent that a species can optimize its rate of procreation, so as
to maximize its competitiveness in the wild. So even though we have a couple adaptations which aid in digesting animal products, evolution and natural
selection only "care" about whether that adaptation aids procreation.
So you see, there is no "natural" diet for humans, as far as evolution is concerned. (Sorry, paleo/primal dieters) It could very easily be that the
healthiest diet involves some food mixture that nobody's even conceived of yet. But for now, the only way to truly peer into what can give us vitality
into old age is the field of Epidemiology. It is basically the art of taking every piece of data relevant to the subject being studied, and checking
for statistically significant correlations.
That is what makes epidemiology studies so unique - they can be weak and thus meaningless if not done correctly. But if done properly, they can reveal
unexpected results. Many forget that epidemiology studies are what convinced the public of the dangers of tobacco. Since there are countless
environmental factors which combine to determine the health of any individual, you need to study a LOT of people over a LONG period of time, for any
kind of meaningful result.
Back to the China Study, it examined millions of Chinese over 20 years. They are still collecting data, even. Furthermore, and responding to the
second part of your post, the study specifically used animal products from remote villages in China that hadn't changed their lifestyles and farming
practices in generations. That means none of the poisons used in modern Western farms. No rBGH or antibiotics. The result? Strong association with
And just take a step back and think about it. Do you really want to be drinking concentrated hormone soup specifically tailored for infant cows which
need to pack on hundreds of pounds within a matter of months? And people wonder why America has an obesity epidemic. And you think fluoride makes you
passive and docile? Yeah, milk does that too, but much more effectively.
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