Why Sandy Hook Massacre Spawned Conspiracy Theories, page 2

reply to post by Klassified

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Pardon my ignorance, what's "groupthink?"

Originally posted by windword
reply to post by Klassified

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Pardon my ignorance, what's "groupthink?"

Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people, in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an incorrect or deviant decision-making outcome. Group members try to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation of alternative ideas or viewpoints, and by isolating themselves from outside influences. Loyalty to the group requires individuals to avoid raising controversial issues or alternative solutions, and there is loss of individual creativity, uniqueness and independent thinking. The dysfunctional group dynamics of the "ingroup" produces an "illusion of invulnerability" (an inflated certainty that the right decision has been made). Thus the "ingroup" significantly overrates their own abilities in decision-making, and significantly underates the abilities of their opponents (the "outgroup").

Groupthink

You might also want to look up "consensus reality".

reply to post by Klassified

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That was never said, nor does it have anything to do with this thread. if you want to whine about the fact that you arent allowed to post people's personal information online (which is, essentially, what got all of those threads banned), please, take it up with a mod. Dont clutter up this thread, that you obviously havent even read. If you had, you would know that it isnt even directly about Sandy hook.

Originally posted by captaintyinknots
reply to post by Klassified

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That was never said, nor does it have anything to do with this thread. if you want to whine about the fact that you arent allowed to post people's personal information online (which is, essentially, what got all of those threads banned), please, take it up with a mod. Dont clutter up this thread, that you obviously havent even read. If you had, you would know that it isnt even directly about Sandy hook.

I didn't mention Sandy Hook, and intentionally so. Because I DID read the OP. There are other topics here we aren't allowed to discuss you know. Staff has made that clear, and I (usually) agree with their reasoning behind it. Groupthink on the other hand, I don't agree with. Even my own.

On topic: It wouldn't matter what the conspiracy theorists said, or how reasonable their questions sounded. The right arm of the government has learned since 9/11, that CT's are a force to be reckoned with, and manipulated. It is the latter that bothers me the most.

reply to post by Klassified

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I agree with what most of what you just said, except one thing. I think we are seeing how easily manipulated conspiracy theorists truly are.

Throw a few absolutely baseless, fringe theories into the mix with something like SH. Watch the theorists snowball them to the point where they are stated as fact. Then use that exact ammunition to make conspiracy theorists look foolish.

I truly do believe, and Im sure some people are sick of seeing me type this, but I do believe we are all being played.

reply to post by QQXXw

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You are off topic. Id appreciate it if this thread was turned into another thread about what may or may not have happened that day. There are plenty of those out there.

reply to post by captaintyinknots

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On this I think we can agree. Some(too many) are easily manipulated. At the same time...

"The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst. It rejects even the assumption that human creatures could espouse a philosophy which must ultimately destroy all that is good and decent." J. Edgar Hoover

Hoover didn't say that just for kicks. I believe he was closer to the truth than even he knew.

S&F BTW.

Originally posted by windword
reply to post by Klassified

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Pardon my ignorance, what's "groupthink?"

It's what happens every night about 6:00 in living rooms all over America, when the herd tunes into the latest fit for herd consumption wild fairy tales and conspiracy theories spewing out of the Orwellian idiot box by overpaid (and usually overdressed) actors.

reply to post by captaintyinknots

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I truly do believe, and Im sure some people are sick of seeing me type this, but I do believe we are all being played

Couldn't agree more.

The trick is to find Waldo in an ever changing maze of distorions, exaggerations, manipulations and downright lies, introduced specifically to keep one from finding---Waldo.

They have the game down to an art form and the resources to keep the maze never ending.

We have one simple thing though they don't Imo. A simple desire for the truth.

Originally posted by captaintyinknots

Originally posted by Maddog5595
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It almost like conspiracy theories were/are becoming somewhat excepted as a sort of news, 15 years ago if you even mentioned anything "out side the box" in a public place such as around the break room table at work you would be shunned. Now its more common place, and I feel they are trying to shove said thinkers back in their hole away from public view.

Agreed, although, as has already been pointed out, I could see it going even further than that. Imagine being able to be prosecuted for investigating a conspiracy theory.

A very terrifying thought. I already felt nervous discussing these things with my friends via the internet.
They are going to make thinking a crime. They don't want us to think.

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