Helicopter crashed into crane in London

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posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by stinka
...Convenient that just the pilot was on board.

I'd like to see proper pictures of helicopter debris or there is something fishy going on


Am I missing your point, or are you saying that simply because there was only one person in the helicopter that there is some sort of conspiracy involved? Can't a helicopter carrying only one person simply be involved in a accident just as easily as a helicopter carrying more than one person?

And I haven't seen any footage of the debris yet, but eyewitnesses reported seeing a helicopter plummet to the ground and explode on impact.


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posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 09:49 AM
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Originally posted by Human_Alien
With all the room in the world up in the skies to navigate in, what are the odds of a small helicopter hitting a thin crane? Talk about odds!


www.helicoptersafety.org...

All Accidents [By First Events] In Progress
Mishandled Controls
(22.02%) 85
Drivetrain Failure
(4.66%) 18
Wire Strike
(4.40%) 17
Under Investigation
(3.89%) 15
Loss Of Control IMC
(3.63%) 14
Maintenance Error
(3.11%) 12
Collision with Ground Based Object
(2.85%) 11
Engine Power Loss or Variation
(2.59%) 10
Engine Failure
(2.33%) 9
Tail Rotor Strike
(2.33%) 9
Loss Of Control VMC
(2.07%) 8
Other Weather Related
(1.81%) 7

Wires are VERY thin, yet they account for 4.4% of the accidents. Collision with ground based objects are nearly as common at 2.85%. Throw in weather [1.81%] and you have pretty decent odds of hitting a tall, thin, ground-based object.
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posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 09:50 AM
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There were no military at the site just Police at the cordons. It was a 12 seater helicopter flying from Redhill to Elstree with just one pilot on board crashing into a crane in thick fog.

As they said there this morning "Move on Sir, Nothing to see here"

It was so foggy this morning they stopped the Woolwich Ferry (boat) and the cloud cover was about 200 feet so absolutely bonkers flying a helicopter.



posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 09:51 AM
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Originally posted by Human_Alien
With all the room in the world up in the skies to navigate in, what are the odds of a small helicopter hitting a thin crane? Talk about odds!

And yet, there is still a long history of aircraft hitting things like power lines, buildings, towers, and cranes. In 1945, a plane flying in fog accidentally smashed into the Empire State Building. there is a long list of accidents involving planes and helicopters hitting power lines.

Accidents/pilot error happen.



posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 09:54 AM
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He was attempting to divert to the helipad near London because of the fog. He most likely dropped down to check his position, and that's when he hit the crane.



posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 10:00 AM
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Originally posted by GLontra
Everything that happens IS INDEED a conspiracy, until proven otherwise.

Specially when it happens in Central London, next to the MI-6 headquarters.

It's a conspiracy, until proven otherwise.


I get your point, but given the conditions and the fact that the copter had been diverted to Battersea Heliport which wasn't it's destination, I think it likely that a slightly panicky pilot with a potentially defective craft simply struck an unusually high crane. The building it was on is a construction site for one of the tallest residential developments in London so it's probably not that surprising that this particular crane was high enough to interfere with a helicopter flying a little low to avoid the fog.

The proximity of Thames House means nothing. An incident like this anywhere over several miles of Central London would be right next to an important Government building or facility.

It's worth keeping an open mind, of course, but there's nothing about this that suggests anything other than a tragic accident. It's not like helicopters have the enviable safety records of jet liners, is it? We'll have to wait for the report, I guess.



posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 10:05 AM
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Originally posted by FastJetPilot
So an eyewitness says its a helicopter, I have an eyewitness friend there who says it wasnt a helicopter and no helicopters are missing, so it hasnt been identified.


This is too much!
You have an eyewitness friend who says no helicopters are missing? Really.

This person is BOTH an eyewitness to the accident AND someone who knows the exact status of all helicopters in the UK?



posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 10:07 AM
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Before everyone is trying to nail the poster to the ground ill continue OP and post some additional information as i did in the other topic of the helicopter crash.
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12 Injured and 2 people died.


Five people were taken to hospital. One had a broken leg and the others had minor injuries. Seven people were treated at the scene.We rescued a man from a burning car at the scene of the helicopter crash



It is thought some of the injured were hit by falling debris.

This map shows the crane site(A) and crash location(B)

Map click here

Crane aftermath


There's also going a rumours of a person that somehow got in the water after the accident.



Picture shows a fireman crew member looking up from lifeboat on Thames at crane hit by helicopter this morning in Vauxhall


Crash Aftermath:



posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 10:14 AM
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It was an 8 seat aircraft, operated by RotorMotion, flown by Pete Barnes. He was an experienced pilot, who flew multiple types of helicopters along the US East Coast for several years before going back to London to fly. RotorMotion leased it from Castle Air, which uses helicopters for filming, and for flying VIPs around. Pete Barnes was a freelance pilot for RotorMotion since 1997, and reportedly was asked for by name by their repeat clients for his professionalism, and his manner while flying.

The crane operator reports that the lights on the crane were operating and were checked yesterday.



posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 10:33 AM
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Crazy, news was just saying that the crane operator was late for work and should have actually been in the cab at the time!!!


Just amazing



posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 12:37 PM
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It was identified as a helicopter. The chances of an UFO crashing in the middle of the day is unlikely.
Also why would a UFO crash on earth when they came here from space with a lot more things to crash into then what is here.

S&F!
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posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 01:32 PM
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Originally posted by hapablab

Originally posted by Reddeltic
God, is everything that happens some conspiracy? There was fog, the chopper pilot made a mistake and clipped the crane. Seeing as the accident happened very close to MI6 hq, I would have been amazed if they weren't on the scene very quickly indeed.



That's like going to the food network website and saying, God, does everything have to be about food?..you will find these types of threads on a conspiracy site my friend.


Very true, but this isn't a conspiracy it was a crash. This thread topic is more sensationalist than the national media, I trust you see the irony my friend.



posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by theone88----->The chances of an UFO crashing in the middle of the day is unlikely.


The chances of an UFO crashing at all is very tiny to impossible.

I seriously doubt they just pick another ET from the street to pilot their state of the art machines (as we do at the earth)






posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 02:22 PM
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Two people loose their lives and several more injured in a horrific accident....

ATS has a UFO field day.....

Nice.....




edit on 16/1/13 by woogleuk because: Another poster corrected me on an issue.



posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 03:00 PM
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Didn't fog cause the accident ?



posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 03:11 PM
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So it did, I hadn't read the latest updates after getting in from work, thanks for that.

Either way, still disgusting that people see more to it than what it was.



posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 03:24 PM
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UFO....really?


Threads like this make ATS unbearable. OP is a joke.


R.I.P. to the lives that were lost.



posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 04:42 PM
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Just now getting on here for today, but you hit the nail on the head buddy!(Zap)...Obvious bladed, aerial machine hit the crane and fell to the ground. Very sad, always sad to see something like this. Could have been much deadlier if it were a more populated area.
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posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 05:05 PM
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This is the helicopter that crashed this morning. The pilot had been used to help film James Bond, and Saving Private Ryan at various points in the last few years.




posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 06:05 PM
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I'm still puzzled as to how the crash actually happened. My way of thinking is in the event of fog, and knowing your going to be flying in through central London would you not fly at a higher level and fly only using instruments ? Or am I completely wrong ?

As I said in my post on page one RIP those you passed such a sad day



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