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Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by HenryNorris
Well, that's the best argument then for the Representative Republic we actually are. America has never been a democracy in the definition of that and in this context that really does matter.
Economically, it's been more an Oligarchy for quite some time now and turning more and more away from Capitalism to central control all the time. That started with a high speed turn around 06/07 with Bush although really, it could be said it started after 9/11 with the artificial bail-out of the Airlines. I recall well how they were doing pretty badly before 9/11 and it actually worked in their favor in a warped kinda way.
The important point here is, we haven't seen Capitalism in much of anything in over 10 years in ANY serious way and it's been gradually slipping for decades. NAFTA... CAFTA... the efforts both successful and failed have been nonstop and helping to lead to the failure it's all about to come to. Show me Capitalism and the Republic form of Government isn't the problem.
They ARE two separate things, too.
edit on 15-1-2013 by Wrabbit2000 because: (no reason given)
State Capitalism protects the peoples asstes and utlilities and also affords the public incredible infrastructure.
In ancient times in China, education was the only way out of poverty -- in recent times it has been the best way. China's economic boom and talk of the merits of hard work have created an expectation that to study is to escape poverty. But these days China's higher education system only leads to jobs for a few, educating a new generation to unemployment and despair
Without the mass consumer market of these nations, China would have collapsed at least a decade ago without a serious change in policy. Both domestic and international.
Originally posted by HenryNorris
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.
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This is true. Most people are idiots. Western populations cant be trusted with democracy anyway. We gave it a chance but democracy failed. Its time to move on.
"Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time." (from a House of Commons speech on Nov. 11, 1947)
That is propaganda.
America is facing looking like Detroit all over.
China has massive surplus and is about to invest heavily in Europe. China is floating the RMB and demand for it is through the roof as Central Banks look to protect themselves from the doomed USD.
China will grow for at least two decades. This is the start of the Asian Century. Buckle up.
Still, there is reason to think that China’s economic strategy may be turning a corner. While its current-account surplus with the United States, $318 billion last year, was somewhat bigger than it was in 2007, China actually ran a big deficit with the rest of the world. China’s vast takeover of world markets may be running out of steam.
Originally posted by Bixxi3
ok so i recently read all the global trend reports.
Very interesting to read this stuff. Here are some quotes i think are relevant for this thread.
The United States will continue to be identiﬁed throughout the world as the leading proponent and beneﬁciary of globalization. US economic actions, even when pursued for such domestic goals as adjusting interest rates, will have a major global impact because of the tighter integration of global mar- kets by 2015.
Diplomacy will be more complicated. Washington will have greater difﬁ- culty harnessing its power to achieve speciﬁc foreign policy goals: the US Government will exercise a smaller and less powerful part of the overall economic and cultural inﬂuence of the United States abroad. • In the absence of a clear and overriding national security threat, the United States will have difﬁculty drawing on its economic prowess to advance its foreign policy agenda. The top priority of the American pri- vate sector, which will be central to maintaining the US economic and technological lead, will be ﬁnancial proﬁtability, not foreign policy objec- tives.
Global trends 2015, Published in 2000.
T he world of 2030 will be radically transformed from our world today. By 2030, no country—whether the US, China, or any other large country—will be a hegemonic power. The empowerment of individuals and diffusion of power among states and from states to informal networks will have a dramatic impact, largely reversing the historic rise of the West since 1750, restoring Asia’s weight in the global economy, and ushering in a new era of “democratization” at the international and domestic level.
The diffusion of power among countries will have a dramatic impact by 2030. Asia will have surpassed North America and Europe combined in terms of global power, based upon GDP, population size, military spending, and technological investment. China alone will probably have the largest economy, surpassing that of the United States a few years before 2030. In a tectonic shift, the health of the global economy increasingly will be linked to how well the developing world does—more so than the traditional West. In addition to China, India, and Brazil, regional players such as Colombia, Indonesia, Nigeria, South Africa, and Turkey will become especially important to the global economy. Meanwhile, the economies of Europe, Japan, and Russia are likely to continue their slow relative declines.
the Us, european, and Japanese share of global income is projected to fall from 56 percent
today to well under half by 2030. in 2008, China overtook the Us as the world’s largest saver; by
2020, emerging markets’ share of fnancial assets is projected to almost double.
The current, largely Western dominance of global structures such as the UN Security Council, World Bank, and IMF probably will have been transformed by 2030 to be more in line with the changing hierarchy of new economic players.
The US most likely will remain “frst among equals” among the other great powers in 2030 because of its preeminence across a range of power dimensions and legacies of its leadership role. More important than just its economic weight, the United States’ dominant role in international politics has derived from its preponderance across the board in both hard and soft power. Nevertheless, with the rapid rise of other countries, the “unipolar moment” is over and Pax Americana—the era of American ascendancy in international politics that began in 1945—is fast winding down.
Potential black swans That Would cause The Greatest disruptive Impact.
Chinese “soft” power
could be dramatically boosted, setting off a wave of democratic movements. Alternatively, many
experts believe a democratic China could also become more nationalistic. An economically
collapsed China would trigger political unrest and shock the global economy.
A collapse or sudden retreat of Us power probably would result in an extended period of global
anarchy; no leading power would be likely to replace the United states as guarantor of the
Global Trends 2030, published 2012
Ironically, Army Regulation 210-35, which bears the name “Civilian Inmate Labor Program” refers to establishing and managing civilian inmate labor programs on Army installations within the United States. Even more disturbing is the 2010 army manual FM 3-39.40 Internment and Resettlement Operations that was leaked online this year that outlines plans for “political activists” to be "indoctrinated" by “PSYOP officers” into developing an “appreciation of U.S. policies” while being detained in prison camps inside the United States. Fort Leonard Wood Public Affairs director Tiffany Wood responded to the leak by saying that the document was not meant to be public and that the manual was for overseas, despite the manual referring to the U.S.