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reply posted on 15-1-2013 @ 07:25 PM by Raist
reply to post by TDawgRex



Yeah I should have gotten some proof I guess. They were good people though so I am not worried about what they do with them. Since they were rifles they were not registed so they were not in my name. The only thing in my name was the background checks the day I bought them, and I am not even sure if they showed what I bought.

I guess though thinking about it there are tons of guns out there that there that are not accounted for. I guess just about anyone could have one if they bought it privately.


Raist


reply posted on 15-1-2013 @ 07:27 PM by neo96
reply to post by OperationLovestrike



Not a cop hater per say seems like they are never around when you need them, and always around when they are not wanted.

Don't have dunkin donuts here but 4 to 6 at Mcdonalds most of the time or Arbys.


reply posted on 15-1-2013 @ 07:29 PM by OperationLovestrike
Originally posted by TDawgRex
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post by neo96



Good point. It right up there with the Estate tax.

What you had aquired in life, now belongs to the Gov't after you die.

Can anyone justify that to me?


Couldn't agree more. I mean seriously people! Doesn't it make you upset that the government does that? That fires me up, just like death taxes do.



reply posted on 15-1-2013 @ 07:31 PM by OperationLovestrike
reply to post by neo96



If I was a cop I'd be chillin' at Dunkin Donuts all the time. I'd also probably be kind of a crooked cop lol. Like if I found a bunch of drug money somewhere I'd stash some away. Too tempting


reply posted on 15-1-2013 @ 07:48 PM by TDawgRex
reply to post by Agit8dChop



By law in most states, buying a car is as easy as buying a firearm. However in most states a proof of purchase is required. At some level at least.

The loopholes are so enormous that a aircraft carrier could sail through while launching a strike and the law would never notice.

Bad people will always get what they want. Why should we restrict law abiding citizens for the actions of a few?


reply posted on 15-1-2013 @ 08:41 PM by SPACEYstranger
reply to post by OperationLovestrike



Oh no, background checks, what a terrible tragedy for all gun-loving criminal lunatics!


reply posted on 15-1-2013 @ 09:33 PM by xstealth
Originally posted by SPACEYstranger
reply to
post by OperationLovestrike



Oh no, background checks, what a terrible tragedy for all gun-loving criminal lunatics!


Criminals don't get background checks, they buy illegally.

Law abiding citizens already have background checks.

Just because people like guns, makes them lunatics?

You're really not adding anything to this thread, I assume your a 12 year old know it all.


reply posted on 16-1-2013 @ 12:05 AM by BrianFlanders
Originally posted by TDawgRex
reply to
post by neo96



Good point. It right up there with the Estate tax.

What you had aquired in life, now belongs to the Gov't after you die.

Can anyone justify that to me?


Justify it? No Explain it?

Pretty simple. The boiling frog. People are expecting something big to happen all at once when the real danger comes. That's to say that you don't have to worry until guns are completely banned. As long as they're only taking little baby steps like this, people will not worry so much.

But we all know that every baby eventually learns to walk perfectly.

They are not taking the guns from the old timers because they know these people are not going to live that much longer. If they are required to register them, they can be confiscated at some future date (likely when the owner dies). It's not worth it to make a scene taking the guns away from these people when they can have them soon enough anyway.

The next generation will probably not be gun enthusiasts. They will give up their guns easier just like this generation is more willing than the previous ones. It literally will be a progressive (or incremental) ban.


reply posted on 16-1-2013 @ 12:51 AM by OperationLovestrike
Originally posted by BrianFlanders
Originally posted by TDawgRex
reply to
post by neo96



Good point. It right up there with the Estate tax.

What you had aquired in life, now belongs to the Gov't after you die.

Can anyone justify that to me?


Justify it? No Explain it?

Pretty simple. The boiling frog. People are expecting something big to happen all at once when the real danger comes. That's to say that you don't have to worry until guns are completely banned. As long as they're only taking little baby steps like this, people will not worry so much.

But we all know that every baby eventually learns to walk perfectly.

They are not taking the guns from the old timers because they know these people are not going to live that much longer. If they are required to register them, they can be confiscated at some future date (likely when the owner dies). It's not worth it to make a scene taking the guns away from these people when they can have them soon enough anyway.

The next generation will probably not be gun enthusiasts. They will give up their guns easier just like this generation is more willing than the previous ones. It literally will be a progressive (or incremental) ban.


I don't know man, I may have to disagree with you on that. I think this whole gun control issue has really opened up a lot of young people's eyes. My generation is getting sick of the left/right paradigm. The Libertarian movement is rapidly growing and I feel that this younger generation will be the same or even more pro gun than our parents; Especially since our youth are filled with Veterans. Think about that


reply posted on 16-1-2013 @ 01:01 AM by Raist
reply to post by OperationLovestrike



I am not sure. I see a lot of younger generations that are agreeing with many from the UK and other places. I constantly hear things like "why do we need guns" or "why do you want a gun like that".

For me with the AK it was not because I needed it. I got it because I could and it was fun to shoot. Because they are well known for being very hardy and being able to take a lot of abuse and still fire. On top of all that they were just pretty cool to look at.

Raist



reply posted on 16-1-2013 @ 01:43 AM by OperationLovestrike
Originally posted by Raist
reply to
post by OperationLovestrike



I am not sure. I see a lot of younger generations that are agreeing with many from the UK and other places. I constantly hear things like "why do we need guns" or "why do you want a gun like that".

For me with the AK it was not because I needed it. I got it because I could and it was fun to shoot. Because they are well known for being very hardy and being able to take a lot of abuse and still fire. On top of all that they were just pretty cool to look at.

Raist


7.62 ammo is pretty freakin' expensive these days. I have an M4, which shoots 5.56 .223


reply posted on 16-1-2013 @ 02:13 AM by Raist
reply to post by OperationLovestrike



Really if they ever wanted to get rid of guns they would just tax the hell out of ammo. The gun is useless if you cannot afford to feed it.

They could baiscally within a few years have all the guns in homes be worthless.

Raist


reply posted on 16-1-2013 @ 02:53 AM by OperationLovestrike
Originally posted by Raist
reply to
post by OperationLovestrike



Really if they ever wanted to get rid of guns they would just tax the hell out of ammo. The gun is useless if you cannot afford to feed it.

They could baiscally within a few years have all the guns in homes be worthless.

Raist


At some point though, they are going to just piss everyone off enough to the point of citizens revolting.


reply posted on 16-1-2013 @ 03:05 AM by Raist
reply to post by OperationLovestrike



I am not so sure about that any more. I have heard that for years. Sure people complain about it but then they still sit back and watch the game, "reality TV", play a video game, or do like we do get on the internet and complain some more. In the end they still play the game and keep voting believing they are making a difference. When really the only way to make a difference is to get all of the career politicians out of DC and instal some regular people who really will listen to the will of the people.

Raist
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