President Obama to Use Children to Push His Plan on Gun Control

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posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 07:34 PM
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Originally posted by Spiramirabilis

Originally posted by butcherguy
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Speaking of the Secret Service, why is there a vehicle in Obama's motorcades fitted with a pop-up minigun that can fire 6, 000 rounds per minute? Where would it be prudent to fire such a weapon? You know where Presidential motorcades travel. Urban streets, lined with innocent people.


butcherguy - lol

You can't call Obama a hypocrite without simultaneously making the point that these weapons are wrong

thanks for that

:-)


I couldn't help but notice that you evaded the question.

Have a nice chuckle. Want to try again?

Do many people own their own minigun?
The NRA doesn't push for people to own them.

Do even know what one is?




posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 07:42 PM
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I believe in personal choice right along with individual responsibility. Our laws against drugs & Guns aren't working and no amount of manpower is going to stop the natural demand people have for getting their "kicks."



posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 07:44 PM
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Want to try again?

sure :-)


Do many people own their own minigun?
The NRA doesn't push for people to own them.


hmmmm...so, the NRA does push for people to own some guns then?

And - no, I don't know what this one is - why would I?

But - if it's something that can fire rapidly and indiscriminately - then I was correct to point out that you can't call this wrong and other weapons in the same category safe - or right

But it's an interesting thing any way you look at it

Why would the president need a weapon that can fire that fast and without precision?

Why would your average citizen need one?

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posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by Strattos
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Why are children a poor backdrop? Do you know what happened?


I do know what was reported and what has been talked about since, in regards to Sandy Hook. I also know that the events of Sandy Hook were the final straw that broke the camels back on bringing the gun control issue to such a pinnacle as of late. It is not, by far, the only issue in regards to shootings and children are not, in any way shape or form, the only victims. I simply think that by using children as a back drop is playing on the fresh, raw, and soar emotions of the people in order to gain backing for the agenda that took this long, with this many deaths, to be addressed. The issue has always been on the table in one shape or form and it has been known for a long time that it should be addressed or let go of. Honor the children, Yes, in the form of a Memorial, but not as an emotional smoke screen for a bill.
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posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 07:58 PM
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You really should bone up on your firearms facts if you are going to debate them.

The 'assault weapons' that are being considered in the proposed ban fire one shot per pull of the trigger. Double action revolvers dating from the 1800's do that. The minigun that is mounted in a special SUV in the Presidential motorcade is an electrically driven gatling gun that fires 7.62 NATO rounds at a rate of 100 rounds per second.

There is a difference.

The weapons they propose to ban are legal hunting weapons in many states.

Again, tell me under what circumstances would the President need to put 100 rounds per second out of a vehicle on a street lined with innocent people .... including CHILDREN?
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posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 07:58 PM
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This is a minigun and no most private citizens would never be able to get one.




posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 07:59 PM
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They're also using children just as much as anyone to further their goal - in fact saying Obama doesn't care about your children - despicable


No way. Examining the evidence, I know Obama and his elite crew of Molech worshiping cattle herders would sacrifice their own first born to the fire god. And they would dance and sing to drown out the sounds of shrieking
horror as one of their own burns to death in a ritual to bring them power.

Despicable ? That would be someone saying Obama does care about children. In total ignorance of the two videos I posted in contrast in each, one as opposed to the other.



posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 08:04 PM
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I really don't know how to respond to this

But I guess I know where you stand on Obama



posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by VeritasAequitas
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Good catch, I just saw that meme on Facebook last night, and thought about posting that..


I made that on power point this afternoon - I haven't seen it elsewhere.

Not saying someone didn't beat me to combining the quote (the Hitler quote is prety well known though if that is what you are talking about) with the obbvious photo with the POTUS and the children; however, the photo wasn't taken until like 1100 Eastern time today.

Unless of course last night is 1100 Eastern for you... Time zone math makes my head hurt.



posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 08:12 PM
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Originally posted by Agarta
I understand the sensitive nature of gun control in light of the resent events within the United States. I also understand that the issue of gun control can be heard from every street corner in the nation right now. Some of you may know that petitions have been filed with the White House, not only to deal with gun control, but also to not make any rash decisions or executive orders as the 2nd Amendment is coming under fire.

Tomorrow, the President and Vice President will be holding an event at the White House to "unveil a package, a concrete proposal to reduce gun violence and prevent future tragedies" Okay, that sounds good. The country is screaming for action and they are on the ball. How this turns out, whether good or bad, in terms of what it means for the 2nd Amendment, will have to be seen tomorrow.

Here's the problem, They will be surrounded by children. I feel this is an attempt to exploit these children and create sympathy within the masses in order to push their agenda. I feel this stunt will make it harder for Congress to deal with this package due to the "backing of the masses" and they may be forced to pass it along regardless of what the fine print has to say. It is one thing to announce and go over a plan the people are screaming for, but to involve children as a backdrop, with Sandy Hook so fresh in everyones mind, is a low calculated ploy to gain backing for his plan.

What say you ATS?

Here is the announcement of tomorrows event.
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Today, it has been revealed that Obama will also propose to do away with large purchases of bullets, although the Federal Government itself has bought over 1.2 billion bullets since 2012.

The U.S. puppet presidency ironically believes that by taking firearms off the hands of those who lawfully own them will help end violence in schools and other public places, while criminals continue to have full access to powerful firearms.



posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 08:12 PM
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Now that you have seen what the minigun is about, do you think it would be prudent to open fire with one in a crowded city street?

ETA: Posting from my phone... sorry, the question was not directed at juggernog.
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posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 08:23 PM
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Billions of dollars are spent every day maintaining bunkers (that cost the taxpayers trillions) in multiple locations along with airborne and sea based platforms just in case the world falls apart to save this one man.

You don't think they would hesitate to mow down some kids if they need to get him there?

This is what intrigues me about these people (the elite) what do they think will be waiting for them when they having left the people of America to their own devices while seeking cover for themselves, their cronies and families? Do they think after we have suffered whatever disaster or unrest we will welcome their leadership and guidance?

I think any pronouncements of "Hey, I know you all endured some hard times while we sat comfy in our bunkers on our asses but please surrender yourselves to our authority again" type declarations will be met with ambivalence at best probably with hostility from most.



posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 08:30 PM
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Originally posted by Golf66
Billions of dollars are spent every day maintaining bunkers (that cost the taxpayers trillions) in multiple locations along with airborne and sea based platforms just in case the world falls apart to save this one man.

You don't think they would hesitate to mow down some kids if they need to get him there?

This is what intrigues me about these people (the elite) what do they think will be waiting for them when they having left the people of America to their own devices while seeking cover for themselves, their cronies and families? Do they think after we have suffered whatever disaster or unrest we will welcome their leadership and guidance?

I think any pronouncements of "Hey, I know you all endured some hard times while we sat comfy in our bunkers on our asses but please surrender yourselves to our authority again" type declarations will be met with ambivalence at best probably with hostility from most.





The time has now come for a bill of impeachment to be introduced and debated in Congress. Obama’s crimes are public, and the debate in the House will serve as a court in which to display the tyrannical activities of President Obama and his cohorts.

As in the case of Richard Nixon, the exposure of Obama’s crimes may cause him to resign in disgrace. If he does not step down, the full House will then vote to begin the impeachment trial in the US Senate.
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posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 08:44 PM
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Obama's sweeping gun control agenda: Assault weapons ban, mandatory background checks

The most contentious piece of the package is Obama's call for a renewed ban on military-style assault weapons, a move that is unlikely to win approval because Republicans who control the House of Representatives are expected to oppose it. The Newtown gunman, 20-year-old Adam Lanza, used a Bushmaster AR-15 type assault rifle to shoot his victims, most of them 6- and 7-year-olds, before killing himself.

Newtown Massacre: What Is a Bushmaster .223?

Law enforcement officials said that Adam Lanza was armed with four firearms when he started his rampage at a Connecticut elementary school Friday that ended in the deaths of 20 children and seven adults, but nearly all the killing was done with just one of the guns: a .223 caliber Bushmaster semiautomatic rifle. Lanza used the rifle, a modified civilian version of the military's M-16 similar to the popular AR-15, as he stalked through the school and opened fire on children as young as five. Dr. H. Wayne Carver, the medical examiner who investigated the massacre, told reporters over the weekend that all of Lanza's victims had been shot more than once.

Bushmasters Disappearing From Shelves After Newtown

Fun because of the semi-automatic feature. "You can shoot 30 rounds in 10 seconds or less. It's kind of an adrenaline rush." It's comfortable, too. "The gun doesn't produce enough kick to hurt you." And, if you don't want to use the semi-automatic feature, "You can squeeze the trigger one by one and get a different feeling."


And that's about enough from me tonight

Absolutely just turned my stomach

yeah - I know - what a weenie
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posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 08:45 PM
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Just so we are clear about the post of mine to which you responded...the organs in government whose purpose it is to protect and get the POTUS to safety would do anything and everything/anything to make it so.

The mini-gun and or their will to use are the tip of the iceberg it have very little to do with Obama personally.

Entire black programs exist to keep this one person alive to the tune of billions every day in spending. They wouldn't hesitate to sacrifice whole swaths of America or is people to do so - I am sure of that.

However, to respond to your call for impeachment of Obama himself - I am all for it. He is a liar and fraud of the highest order.

We have a textbook narcissist (with a fragile ego to boot) in charge of the nuclear triggers...

That should scare people.
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posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 08:48 PM
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And that's about enough from me tonight Absolutely just turned my stomach


Oh, quit being a drama queen..



posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 08:51 PM
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Originally posted by Juggernog
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And that's about enough from me tonight Absolutely just turned my stomach


Oh, quit being a drama queen..


Nope



posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 10:16 PM
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Different pic; same quote.



posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 10:18 PM
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Fun because of the semi-automatic feature. "You can shoot 30 rounds in 10 seconds or less. It's kind of an adrenaline rush." It's comfortable, too.


That is a downright lie...No you can't..Your finger can't react faster than a second, and most definitely it can't if you have Aspergers....It's illogical to say you can squeeze a trigger 3 times a second...

Try it with you hand right now...Set a timer to 10 seconds and see how many times you can fake 'pull' a trigger.
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posted on Jan, 16 2013 @ 10:41 PM
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Originally posted by VeritasAequitas
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Different pic; same quote.


Cool the quote is nothing new - I wasn't busing your stones I was just trying to figure out what time zone 1100 Eastern time would have been last night. I got all frustrated and went with it...

Don't take it as an attack or anything that quote from Hitler is used a lot when referring to modern politics because I am sure that America's epitaph will read...

Dead and gone; all for the sake of the CHILDREN!





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