President Obama won the election but so did the Republicans

His policy of wanting to bypass congress on gun control is going to cause real problems and just about shut down congress.

My guess in two years Obama will lose a number of seats in congress to the republicans as he does starts pi**ing people off.

When Obama makes statements like this you are going to see problems if he tries to bypass congress and the states.
"I have executive powers over guns..."
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Gun control laws will work in NY the same as Alaska. and taking property will not go over very good with the public and banning guns and requiring forced turn-ins of guns will never work..

And large taxes or expensive permits that the rich only can afford will leave the middle class feeling they are being left defenseless and crime will rise because the criminals will still have guns and pay no special taxes or get the permits.

reply to post by neoholographic


Just because the republicans retained the majority in the House doesn't mean that they won anything. Actually, a majority of americans voted for a democratic House but because of a little thing known as "gerrymandering," the republicans managed to retain their seats DESPITE the will of the people.

www.post-gazette.com...

So in my book, whatever it is that you think they won is actually just an illusion. If anything, they stole what they now have and if they continue to ignore the will of the people, via tactics like voter suppression and gerrymandering, it will only lead to their total demise as a political party in the future. Actually, I think their little party is already over, they just don't know it yet.

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic


Obama just said at his press conference that he won the election and this battle has been fought and he won. The little fact that Obama and the Democrats who worship him keep leaving out is the the Republicans won also.

Of course you want to make it seem like the Republicans won because they stole the House through redistricting. This is what Kool-Aid drinkers say. Rather it's from Republicans or Democrats. When Democrats win the House Republicans say the same thing that you're saying. It's just silly kool aid drinkers who can't accept that people voted the other party into power. Do both parties play games with redistricting? Of course they do and both parties cry and complain when the other party wins. Give me a break!

Here's a little of Obama at his press conference.

President Obama took questions from the White House press corps for the better part of 50 minutes on Monday morning but the entire message of his news conference could be summed up in two words: I won.

* “I intend to carry out the agenda that I campaigned on — an agenda for new jobs, new opportunity, and new security for the middle class.”

* “If we want to have a conversation about how to reduce our deficit, let’s have that. We’ve been having that for the last two years. We just had an entire campaign about it. And by the way, the American people agreed with me, that we should reduce our deficits in a balanced way, that also takes into account the need for us to grow this economy, and put people back to work.”

* “[Republicans have] got a particular view of what government should do and should be. And, you know, that view was rejected by the American people when it was debated during the presidential campaign.”

www.washingtonpost.com...

The President and his followers are delusional. The Republicans control the House. So, Obama doesn't have Pelosi and Reid running the House and the Senate anymore.

If Republicans had any balls, they would have came out and said, we won too. So Obama's victory doesn't mean every liberal ideological fantasy that he and the Democrats have has to be passed. But of course, Obama threatened more executive order if he doesn't get his way.

Here's some of Obama's Executive Orders.

* Executive Order 10990 allows the Government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.
* Executive Order 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.
* Executive Order 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels, and minerals.
* Executive Order 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.
* Executive Order 11001 allows the government to take over all health education and welfare functions.
Executive Order 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.
* Executive Order 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways, and public storage facilities.
* Executive Order 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.
* Executive Order 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issues over a fifteen-year period.
* Executive Order 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute Industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.
* Executive Order 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit, and the flow of money in U.S. financial institutions in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when the president declares a state of emergency, Congress cannot review the action for six months.
Executive Order 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.
* Executive Order 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate and establish new locations for populations.

WHEN THE PRESIDENT DECLARES THIS UNSPECIFIED NATIONAL EMERGENCY THE CONGRESS CAN'T REVIEW THIS ACTION FOR 6 MONTHS?

reply to post by ANNED

Originally posted by ANNED
"I have executive powers over guns..."

Imagine my surprise when I looked into this to find that he said no such thing. You put it in quotes, as if it's something he actually said... :shk:

Yeah, I'm not going to waste my time chasing down claims of things he said. You guys have lost your credibility. Have a good time fantasizing about things that haven't been said, actions that haven't been taken and thoughts that haven't actually been thought.

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic


Statement

“I’m confident that there are some steps that we can take that don’t require legislation and that are within my authority as president.”

Next up - attack the source.

reply to post by 200Plus


Good point. Obama's my way or the highway attitude doesn't make sense. Republicans control the House so whether he likes it or not, he can't just force his agenda through unilaterally.

reply to post by neoholographic


While you are right on the "both sides do it" when it comes to drawing districts (Unless you take that out of partisan hands, like some states do)
But:
There was a census in 2010 (Supposed to be used among other things to make districts represent the same amount of people)
49.2% voted for dems and 48% voted republican
Republicans lost 8 seats for 234 seats and democrats won 8 seats for 201, there can be no doubt that republicans were better at it in 2010.

reply to post by neoholographic


Redistricting preserved the house for the GOP, whose demographics are shrinking beyond the point that redistricting and gerrymandering will ever have the same effect again.

Hide and watch the mid-term elections of 2014.