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Originally posted by misscurious
NO we didn't .. why do we need guns here?
Actually re reading your post I've never heard so Much nonsense.. so instead of demonstrating peacefully we take to the streets with guns? I'm glad we don't have more people like you livng here...edit on 15-1-2013 by misscurious because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by khimbar
Originally posted by Darkphoenix77
In regards to the OP, it took real courage to voice your opinion, knowing it was likely to be an unpopular one, I salute you.
I'm pretty sure that on a predominantly American site that was never going to be the case, as evinced by the stars and flags he's got for it (which the cynical might think was his intent).
And courage isn't a word that can ever be used to describe typing something on an internet forum.
Originally posted by Darkphoenix77
In regards to the OP, it took real courage to voice your opinion, knowing it was likely to be an unpopular one, I salute you.
Originally posted by EvanB
reply to post by superman2012
Lets take a real life example..
Tony Martin was woken up in the middle of the night by two burglers who invaded his rural home.. He shot them with a shotgun.. One of them died.. The other lived to claim compensation for his injuries..
Tony Martin got put in jail for manslaughter... For protecting his home and possesions..
Do you not see something wrong in that?
Originally posted by EvanB
reply to post by KingIcarus
As a soldier myself it wont be me I assure you..
But bought and paid for private military organisations (mercenaries) who are taking over the shortfall to current military cuts... Organisations with whom are international thus have no ties to the country or people thus will most definitely pop a cap your ass... Did you vote for that???
Hmmmn
Originally posted by Hawkmoon1972
reply to post by misscurious
Demonstrating peacefully? Funny. You know, sometimes peaceful demonstration is pointless. Sometimes you may just need the threat of violence to cause change. Our governments do it all the time. It is called deterrence. If I can hurt you for your behavior you will change the behavior.
Believing that "peaceful demonstration" will get things accomplished every single time just because you really really want it is a load if hippy garbage.Our governments have already shown, repeatedly, that they couldn't give one tiny toss about our peaceful protest. Now, when things get really bad and people start showing up with their pitchforks and torches the officials might just start paying attention because they fear for their slimy skins.
I'm all for solving a problem peacefully, but there comes a time when peace isn't the answer. War is.
Originally posted by LostCompletely
Originally posted by Suspiria
Evan, I loves ya..But you are either drunk again or trying to get off with some American bird on here..
Off topic, why no deletion? I love this forum. Nice gigantic avatar of "your" face too, first replier. Bet that helps a lot.
If this is deleted for off topic, can we be consistent with the rules?
Originally posted by TritonTaranis
In true punch & Judy style
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh Noooooooooooo We Neverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
I think the UK is a much much safer place without guns on or streets only an imbecile could think anything else
Originally posted by merkins
reply to post by EvanB
Have you considered the fact that he was in possession of his gun illegally? Thought not.
Personally I think this case was a travesty of justice, but his imprisonment wasn't for nothing. Someone legally in possession of a gun in similar cirumstances fortunately would not get the atrocious treatment he did.
I know of many British people in possession of shotguns. I seem to have to repeat over and over that guns have not been banned in the UK. Certain types of guns have been restricted.
We have a RIGHT to own a shotgun. Provided you aren't a criminal or someone with mental health problems or have some other valid reason to be refused, you will be given a shotgun licence if you apply. It's a right not a privilege.
Please dude stop spewing guff on these boards.
Originally posted by EvanB
reply to post by superman2012
Lets take a real life example..
Tony Martin was woken up in the middle of the night by two burglers who invaded his rural home.. He shot them with a shotgun.. One of them died.. The other lived to claim compensation for his injuries..
Tony Martin got put in jail for manslaughter... For protecting his home and possesions..
Do you not see something wrong in that?
Martin had equipped himself with an illegally-held (according to current UK law) pump-action Winchester Model 1300 12 bore shotgun which he claimed to have found
Martin had his shotgun certificate revoked in 1994 after he found a man scrumping for apples in his orchard and shot a hole in the back of his vehicle
Martin claimed that he opened fire after being woken when the intruders smashed a window. But his claim that he had shot at them from halfway down the stairs was apparently disproved by scientific evidence that showed he must have fired his shotgun from the doorway of a downstairs room. The prosecution accused him of lying in wait for the burglars and opening fire without warning from close range, in retribution for previous break-ins at his home.
Originally posted by khimbar
Originally posted by EvanB
If the public had a real deterrant against crime and bad governance.. Would Maggie have taken the kids milk?
Answers on a postcard to ....
Maggie took milk in 1970?
So, to answer your question, unless you think something passed in the 1968 Firearms Act would have stopped her, yes. She would.
Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by EvanB
You are absolutely right.
I don't mean to steal any attention from your thread, but I think it works well coupled with this one I had written a while back.
Gun banning - Why would gun control measures that didn't work in the UK, work in the US? (Hungerford, Dunblane, Cumbria)
It gives a little history (I am an American so I may not have it all correct), but I am interested in hearing from you (if you were told enough to remember all of these) what it was like during those times when bans were being pushed. Why did you folk from the UK submit so easily. I mean we have people ready to do the same here, but did you not have the same amount of opposition to these bills that we have here?
Originally posted by misscurious
NO we didn't .. why do we need guns here?
Actually re reading your post I've never heard so Much nonsense.. so instead of demonstrating peacefully we take to the streets with guns? I'm glad we don't have more people like you livng here...edit on 15-1-2013 by misscurious because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Suspiria
Originally posted by khimbar
Originally posted by EvanB
If the public had a real deterrant against crime and bad governance.. Would Maggie have taken the kids milk?
Answers on a postcard to ....
Maggie took milk in 1970?
So, to answer your question, unless you think something passed in the 1968 Firearms Act would have stopped her, yes. She would.
1970? Really? They were still handing it out in my infant school in 1979. I'm not sure why people would have taken to the streets with arms over that muck. They used to leave it festering all morning by the radiator, by the time we got it it was yogurt.