reply to post by logical7
log7, the thing about me and my opinions is that they change....at the moment I am reading Plato's stories about Socrates -- or I should say,
re-reading, as it was required coursework when I was an adolescent college kid; what I'm discovering is that there really ARE too many structural and
plot similarities that leave no question that the Abrahamic faith "morals" were derived from older, MORE sophisticated thinkers such as Socrates,
I have discovered so many nearly verbatim parallels to what Jesus supposedly said that it's astounding. I have watched innumerable documentaries,
read and watched interviews with current and former "men of the cloth", spoken to enough of them myself, that my mind is melting in a way...
I'm sorry for sounding abrupt; perhaps I'm growing weary of the rest of the "class" not keeping up; but that's MY BAD, because I know next to
none of them/you are going about digging in the same way that I am.
Yes, I still, for now
, believe in a Creator - and all that we see is not only THE CREATED, but also a reflection of the nature of the Creator.
That may change by sundown, I can't foresee it. Nevertheless, heaven and hell are admittedly fabrications of religious leaders who want
that much is pretty much a FACT, in my opinion. But, I might be wrong. Agnostic leaning Deist; with acknowledgement that Nature herself is brutal and
without "morals". Whether it's my beloved and affectionate housecat catching and dismembering a small bird on my front stoop, or a tsunami wiping
out an entire island and wrecking "mans" structures...
it's not "friendly".
In the wild, every species must look to its survival, every day. Plants, animals alike - all at the mercy of predators or natural disasters/changes
such as drought, floods, earthquakes, extreme weather, volcanoes, etc.
Is my housecat "evil"? Are the ocean "evil"? The sun? All can be deadly; none are "evil." The difference between us and animals is that we
can "think things through" better in some ways (that we know of)....would my cat care if all of the winter titmice were exterminated? No, because
he has me giving him food every day. So - does that make him "Satan" because he doesn't "care" about making sure there are enough birds for the
birds to continue to breed and live?
IF we are better than animals -- and that's a GREAT BIG "IF" -- then ought we not to be working toward protecting everything we can? And seeking
balance and moderation, taking no more than we need, and must have to survive?
Make no mistake, I think humans actually pretty much SUCK as a species - "suck" everything they can out of the rest of Nature's bounty, leaving
behind waste, destruction, death, devastation....
so why don't we just say "people suck" rather than "blaming" some imagined entity who really doesn't need to be there - nothing much would
change without the idea.
Just my ramblings - I'll be back later. Again, sorry for the impatient little rant and facepalms above.....