NY Senate passes 'landmark' gun control laws

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posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 01:50 AM
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So change the definition of autism until just about every family has at least one mentally ill member, and then push vaccinations and flu shots. Just wow...




posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 01:52 AM
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It's kind of awkward to fashion an opinion on such an elusive editorial... ??

What is alarming though, is the vote status of 43-18... it's not as if it was 32-29 or something similar.

This will more than likely set the trend for the comming months and add futher weight/momentum to legislating restrictions and weapons control throughout the US.









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posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 01:52 AM
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Originally posted by DarknStormy

Originally posted by Dustytoad
I see now.. They are forcing people to tell on each other.. I remember the Cops handing me a card in school for DARE week.. (Drug Abuse resistance education).. He told me that I could turn in drug users in my family for cash..
Something like that anyway it was a long time ago..


Your kidding? Those bastards will try anything these days..


It was like 1997 or something.. I can only imagine what they are doing These Days..

"Citizen Army"
"If you see something say something"
"youth brigade"
"the Red Guard" (Chinese revolution)

And others come to mind...
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posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 01:55 AM
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Originally posted by MsAphrodite
So change the definition of autism until just about every family has at least one mentally ill member, and then push vaccinations and flu shots. Just wow...


Makes me think they know what causes ADD, ADHD, and Autism...

Remember that Autism isn't one disease it is a spectrum of symptoms, and diagnosis...



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 02:01 AM
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Also gives current gun owners one year to get rid of any clips that hold over 7 bullets or face misdemeanor charges.

These people in NY politics do not represent me as a NY resident, I want a vote. My R senator is starting a petition and working on this, she did vote no. Kathy Marchione......she needs help!

And just like I said about the smoking bans.....it's all fine until they come after something dear to you!

Like the first amendment etc!



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 02:04 AM
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Originally posted by goou111
well its getting interesting. the toughest gun controle laws in the nation.. settin the stage for the rest of the states to follow suit..

The bill targets assault rifles, high-capacity clips of ammunition and requires reports of the mentally ill who pose a threat to others with illegal guns.

The vote passed 43-18 in the Senate thanks to a strong Democratic vote.


www.9wsyr.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

www.nytimes.com...

The most significant new proposal would require mental health professionals to report to local mental health officials when they believe that patients are likely to harm themselves or others. Law enforcement would then be authorized to confiscate any firearm owned by a dangerous patient; therapists would not be sanctioned for a failure to report such patients if they acted “in good faith.”

“People who have mental health issues should not have guns,” Mr. Cuomo told reporters. “They could hurt themselves, they could hurt other people



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I know it is pedantic, but after this much time and conversation I am still urked at seeing this one done wrong constantly.

They are magazines, not clips. Not scolding you, but informing you. It's not exactly everyone's fault when AK47 magazines are always called "banana clips" incorrectly, so most people assume that is what all of them are called.

Again, not trying to be an ass just trying to be informative. I have considered doing a informative thread for common misconceptions for firearm terms but I decided it isn't worth the effort, it will most likely come off as being "know it all" or "big weiner contest" as has been labeled before.

Rant over sorry.



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 02:04 AM
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New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo unveiled his proposal to bolster the state's gun laws late Monday after weeks of behind-the-scenes negotiations with legislative leaders, with a full ban on assault weapons slated to take effect as soon as it is passed. The Senate passed Cuomo's bill in a 43-18 vote around 11 p.m. Monday. The Assembly is set to take up the legislation when it returns to session at 10 a.m. Tuesday.


"Full ban to take effect".

www.usatoday.com...


Cuomo is getting his arse ready for 2016
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posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 02:06 AM
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I hate ny

Bye bye Cuomover I'm leaving your #hole, no more tax dollars from this sap anymore



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 02:07 AM
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where did I say anything like magazines or clips.. I quoted the articles

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posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 02:09 AM
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I don't want anyone to forget something..
It's something that you should always wonder about..

The USA secretly aided the Russian revolution that brought about communism.
I'll have to research this one but I am pretty sure that similar happened in China.
Europe came next.. Canada.. These are socialist, but it's closer, and closer..

I think America was hijacked long ago, at least as far back as 1900 or there about.. The purpose is to enslave the globe.. Somehow the founding fathers may have known this, maybe they struggled with these same forces..

I don't know when this was designed, but...



Compare:










We don't live in Greece... We Live in ROME.
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posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 02:10 AM
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It is your comment that I quoted. Your comment isn't in quotes or quote boxes so I assumed it was your wording and not the article. Don't worry then, I am was correcting the article writer and anyone else that might happen to read it.

See I knew it would be taken as some kind of insult =)



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 02:17 AM
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I have read it in more than one article, but here it is:


Assault weapons -- defined as any rifle with a "military style" feature, such as a bayonet or a telescoping stock -- that are currently owned would be grandfathered and would have to be registered with the state. Magazines with a capacity of more than 10 rounds and manufactured before 1994, which are currently legal, would have to be turned over to authorities or sold out of state within one year. If a magazine has a capacity between eight and 10, it would have to be retrofitted to only hold seven rounds.


www.usatoday.com...



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 02:20 AM
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And their gun crimes will continue to soar. Anyone want to take bets on this? I got statistics on my side.



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 02:22 AM
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How can this possibly stay as law, it is clearly unconstitional, and states still have to follow it, so the courts should be able to quash this very quickly.. Just a thought..



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 02:25 AM
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Yet another reason to be glad I am out of the tristate now.



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 02:29 AM
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Ny state senator Kathy Marchione, who I proudly supported for election, is beginning a fight against this unconstitutional bill. I helped get her elected and I will help with this.



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 02:36 AM
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NYS SENATOR KATHLEEN MARCHIONE: TONIGHT’S GUN CONTROL LEGISLATION WEAKENS THE SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS OF NEW YORKERS, CRACKING DOWN ON CRIMINALS AND ADDRESSING MENTAL HEALTH SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE SOLE FOCUS Senator Marchione keeps her promise and votes “NO” on restrictive new gun control; will launch an on-line petition to repeal and replace package’s restrictive gun control measures, asks Second Amendment supporters to stand strong – and stand with her Statement from New York State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione (R,C-Halfmoon) “Tonight, the Second Amendment Constitutional freedoms of every New Yorker were weakened by passage of restrictive new gun control. As shortsighted as the new gun control policy is, the hasty process used to adopt it was even worse. It was a shame that a Message of Necessity was used to rush this important measure through without a single public hearing or the proper time to carefully review the bill and consider alternatives. This is not how democracy is supposed to function. More time, more discussion, more dialog would have allowed our constituents to have a greater voice in this process and for legislators to hold town hall meetings and hear directly from the people they serve. Law-abiding citizens are NOT the issue: millions of New Yorkers own firearms and do so safely, responsibly and legally. The real issue, the real threat, is criminals having guns and the seriously mentally ill obtaining access to guns. If tonight’s legislation focused solely on these issues, I would have voted yes. However, along with strengthening Kendra’s Law, enacting Mark’s Law, providing funding to further secure our schools, and cracking down on illegal guns – all of which are good ideas I strongly support – the bill contained restrictive new gun control that could weaken the Second Amendment. That is something I will not support. The vote tonight is only the beginning of an important debate. I believe we need to repeal and replace parts of tonight’s legislation and keep the sections pertaining to increased penalties on criminals, use of illegal guns, securing our schools and addressing the seriously mentally ill. However, I cannot do it alone: I need Second Amendment supporters to stand strong and stand with me. I will be launching an on-line legislative petition on my Senate page to build public support for repealing and replacing the restrictive provisions passed tonight. If every New Yorker who supports the Second Amendment makes their voices heard we can forge a true public safety remedy without curtailing the Second Amendment. This is no time to sit on the sidelines: every gun owner, hunter, sportsman and supporter of the Second Amendment must get involved. If you’ve been e-mailing, writing and calling, then keep doing so. If you are not registered to vote, get registered. Now is the time to be heard.” -30-


www.marchione2012.com...

She also has a video up on you tube, but I can't get it posted.



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 02:42 AM
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The strong anti-gun states are going full force, while the strong pro-gun states are going full force. Maryland and New York are going for nearly a full ban on guns, while Wyoming and Texas are going for "Firearms Protection Act" legislation.

Which states will follow these other states? I suspect the North East will follow NY and MD, with the exception of Vermont. Then the Southern and North Western states will follow Texas and Wyoming. Im thinking there's going to be a pretty huge divide between states and gun rights following what the already mentioned states have done. (And im glad I live in Texas at the moment)
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posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 02:50 AM
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This will be no different than what the government already does.

Started by using something that sounded reasonable and logical: Keep guns out of the hands of felons. Felons USED to be defined as people who commit violent criminal acts. Well, check out what is now considered to be a felony, and will make YOU a felon if you are convicted.

The mental health restriction will be used in the same manner. Make it sound logical and reasonable to get it passed. Then simply redefine the terms as needed. It would be quite easy to define even the desire for someone to have and use a gun as being "mentally unbalanced". Don't like what the government is doing and are publicly vocal about it? Well, that most certainly would be considered as being mentally deranged in some circles.

The road to hell is paved with good sounding intentions. We are in the process of watching the brick layers at work.



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 03:25 AM
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Who the heck are these "mental health officials" that's what I'd like to know





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