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Originally posted by Aleister
reply to post by ArMaP
We all have hundreds if not thousands of role models, almost all of them people we have no conscious memory of. Why do I wear the type of shoes I like to wear? Part my hair a certain way? Use one word instead of another either in speaking or writing? Either I'm copying some long ago fad or friend, or I'm emulating some politician I liked as a child, etc. Then some people are giants in our lives and we know almost exactly had they've influenced us. For lots of people who bike for exercise Lance Armstrong was a role-model and a hero, a bigger than life record-breaker (7 Tour de'France wins!),
Originally posted by nixie_nox
Anyone wonder why the runner ups weren't given the Tour De Frace title?
Because they were doping too.
If everyone is doping, than no one has an edge. The whole thing is overblown.
Originally posted by antonia
I'm saying we live a system that breeds jackasses.
Originally posted by Flavian
I have to say though, it is a lot cleaner these days. The evidence is more in the times now being clocked on the various stages - they are upto 10% slower on some stages than what Armstrong was achieving whilst doped to the eyeballs. Sports Scientists believe these are the sorts of times that would be possible through clean, non doped but extremely rigorous and professional training so it is looking good in the cycling world (compared to the past).
Originally posted by homeskillet
Yeah, and sports like football, baseball etc would never be as exciting after seeing the level doped athletes perform. Everyone hates a cheater but that doesn't eliminate the public's desire to see huge guys blowing away records. Take bodybuilding for example. There's the supposedly clean (more popular) level and then there's the all natural competitions and the difference is ridiculous.