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Originally posted by muse7
Hitler didn't do anything to guns when he came to power. His most powerful tool to control people was his massive propaganda machine.
In other news---
Larry Pratt "Background checks are a waste of time"
Gun Owners Of America Executive Director Larry Pratt told Fox News Sunday‘s Chris Wallace this week that he is opposed to background checks for gun owners because they are “false security.” He added that he believed it was a waste of time because “there’s really no way to spot these problems.”
All of these threads are just massive paranoia. People have been saying that Obama will confiscate everyone's guns since he was elected in 2008.
Nothing will happen. These right wing news networks and right wing nut jobs are just banking on people with irrational fears of the government implementing gun confiscation raids.
Originally posted by IBelieveInAliens
You all need to take a step back and see that this is a good thing. For years the rest of the civilized world has looked on in horror at the rampant gun violence in America.
You CANNOT sustain a society whose inhabitants are all pointing guns at each other. And that's the truth of it. For one thing it creates an arrogance, that uniquely American arrogance that says "I have a gun and I could shoot you and kill you if I liked".
I for one will salute Obama when he disarms the American public. Perhaps it will teach American society a little humility - it'll be a new concept to many of them but I'm sure they'll get used to the feeling.
Originally posted by Jeremiah65
Was doing a little research into this and though I am not completely finished, there are a few things people are not quite correct about
The German gun controls were dictated to Germany in 1919 with the Treaty of Versailles at the end of WW1. Gun controls started easing in the late early 1930's and it was Hitler who softened the gun control regulations even more for registered members of the Nazi party.
Yes, he did prevent the Jews and others from participating in these things...but it was not an across the board ban like so many people are saying.
I have a lot more research to do but many-many people are talking about things they only think they know.
I am a huge fan or the Constitution and the Second Amendment...but I am also a huge fan and student of history...lets get our facts straight folks....
Originally posted by flyandi
President Obama just said in a Press Conference that he will use his "executive" powers to introduce gun control measures... well Hitler did the same thing in 1938 and we all know how that ended.
Originally posted by nake13
reply to post by flyandi
A commonly heard argument against gun control is that the National Socialists of Germany (the Nazis) used it in their ascent to and maintenance of power. A corollary argument is sometimes made that had the Jews (and presumably the other targeted groups) been armed, they could have fought off Nazi tyranny. This tract seeks to counter these misassumptions about Nazi gun control.
Gun control, the Law on Firearms and Ammunition, was introduced to Germany in 1928 under the Weimar regime (there was no Right to Arms in the Constitution of 1919) in large part to disarm the nascent private armies, e.g. the Nazi SA (aka "the brownshirts"). The Weimar government was attempting to bring some stability to German society and politics (a classic "law and order" position). Violent extremist movements (of both the Left and Right) were actively attacking the young, and very fragile, democratic state. A government that cannot maintain some degree of public order cannot sustain its legitimacy. Nor was the German citizenry well grounded in Constitutional, republican government (as was evidenced in their choices at the ballot box). Gun control was not initiated at the behest or on behalf of the Nazis - it was in fact designed to keep them, or others of the same ilk, from executing a revolution against the lawful government. In the strictest sense, the law succeeded - the Nazis did not stage an armed coup.
Originally posted by lobotomizemecapin
NO president has the power to issue executive orders to remove constitutional rights. Just because Obama claims he can doesnt make it so. Who the hell does he think he is? How much more does he have to prove his anti-constitutional and anti-american extremism before people open their eyes?