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And do you think that such is the thought of God?
Such an idea comes from the Gospel.
Have I at least proved that I am a follower of the bible and Christ and not a follower of Christianity the religion.
Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
They are the same.
"...religion keeps you from knowing God and keeps you blind as to what God is really like! Link
Originally posted by backcase
reply to post by MamaJ
God does not change.
If we are children of Light, then why hide ourselves in darkness?
Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
reply to post by sacgamer25
Have I at least proved that I am a follower of the bible and Christ and not a follower of Christianity the religion.
No you have not.
They are the same.
You want to distance yourself from the title for your own personal reasons. If you follow the Christian Bible, believe the Bible to be authored by God, you belong to the Christian religion.
Yes there are as you said 30,000+ Christian denominations. They are all part of Christendom. You all disagree with each other apparently... but to people on the outside who don't have the belief in the veracity of any of the claims, we make no distinction between these groups. You are all Christians. You all fly under the same banner.
They are NOT the same.
Religion is a LIE...
Religion was created to HIDE the truth from you about God.
Jesus OPPOSED religion and religious people hated Him.
What you THINK is Christianity is actually just religion.
Christianity HAS been infiltrated.
Satan is behind ALL false religions.
Religion is a form of mind control.
Religion and truth have very little in common.
I am not a Christian any more than you are.
We are conditioned at birth that we are sinners.
The truth is simple the bible was written for all men.
When you come to a verse that needs "special interpretation" turn to God for the answer.
If you still don't understand than trust that you will receive what you are ready for.
Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
Jesus OPPOSED religion and religious people hated Him.
What religion did Jesus oppose then? Judaism?
"And yet (you knew it was coming), amidst a lot of true things in this poem there is a lot that is unhelpful and misleading. This video is the sort of thing that many younger Christians love. It sounds good, looks good, and feels good. But is it true? That’s the question we must always ask."
What if I told you Jesus came to abolish religion
What if I told you voting republican really wasn’t his mission
What if I told you republican doesn’t automatically mean Christian
And just because you call some people blind
Doesn’t automatically give you vision
"Bethke’s opening line: “Jesus came to abolish religion.” That’s the whole point of the poem. The argument—and most poems are arguing for something—rests on the sharp distinction between religion on one side and Jesus on the other. Whether this argument is fair depends on your definition of religion. Bethke sees religion as a man made attempt to earn God’s favor. Religion equals self-righteousness, moral preening, and hypocrisy. Religion is all law and no gospel. If that’s religion, then Jesus is certainly against it."
Does Jesus Hate Religion? Kinda, Sorta, Not Really
Following Up on the Jesus/Religion Video
Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
The truth is simple in this case. It was written by men, for men.
The chances of just 48 out of the 456 prophecies being fulfilled in one person are 1 in 10 to the 157 power.
That's — 1 in 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,
000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,
000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.
"All this illustrates why it is absolutely impossible for anyone to have fulfilled the Messianic prophecies by chance. In fact, a leading authority on the probability theory, Emile Borel states that once we go past one chance in 10 to the 50th power, the probabilities are so small it's impossible to think they will ever occur."
LINK
"...once we go past one chance in 10 to the 50th power, the probabilities are so small it's impossible to think they will ever occur....Mathematicians generally agree that, statistically, any odds beyond 1 in 1050 have a zero probability of ever happening.... This is Borel's law in action which was derived by mathematician Emil Borel....
Here is one last illustration of the immensity of the number 10 to the 157th power and why the science of probability shows we are dealing with the miraculous… Imagine one ant traveling at the speed of only one inch every 15 billion years. If he could only carry one atom at a time, how many atoms could he move in 10 to the 157th power of years?
He would, even at that incredibly slow speed, be able to move all the atoms in 600,000 trillion trillion trillion trillion universes the size for our universe, a distance of 30 billion light years! Again, by the laws of probability, all of this means that it is simply impossible for 48 prophecies to be fulfilled by chance. LINK
Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
reply to post by sacgamer25
We are conditioned at birth that we are sinners.
And who is to thank for that? Religion.
The truth is simple the bible was written for all men.
The truth is simple in this case. It was written by men, for men. Quite literally 'for' men when you see how patriarchal it is.
When you come to a verse that needs "special interpretation" turn to God for the answer.
Describe the process.
If you still don't understand than trust that you will receive what you are ready for.
So nothing received....no answer. That's blind faith. Why not put trust in reason. And when reason doesn't present itself drop the belief. Regain the belief if at a later time reason presents itself.
Originally posted by sacgamer25
Look God said knowledge comes by faith, not by reason.
If you have an issue with that take it up with him.
Otherwise just do the things he says. It's not that hard..
The challenge to love everyone should not feel like a burden no matter who brings you the message.
And I will assume the rest of those questions are rhetorical.