Originally posted by Mads1987
Originally posted by sacgamer25
reply to post by Mads1987
Believe me I know this sounds a little hard to believe. But I know God because I know for fact that every word of the bible is the truth. I know
this because I did, very blindly, do everything Christ told me to do. I take care of a widow and an Orphan. I gave everything I owned away - a whole
different thread, I served my kids like they were royalty. Most importantly I forgave and I turned the other cheek, to any argument. You see I did
what Christ, the love inside of me, was telling me to do.
First you say you know it for a fact, then that you did follow it blindly. I didn't read anything in your response that would indicate that you
don't still follow it blindly.
Yes I do find it very hard to believe that you would know such a thing for a fact. What gives you the impression that every word of the bible is 'the
To me it can be clearly seen by what is created that there must be a creator. I simply cannot look at the complexity, organization, intelligence, and
abundant life on this planet and not see the hand of the creator in all things. Then we look up and on a clear night and become utterly dumfounded by
the enormity of creation. Where did it come from?
I have studied scientific claims for origins and evolution and they fall short of anything that resembles fact. I have studied scientific claims for
the age of anything that is claimed to be over a few thousand years old, and the science has fallen short to prove their case again.
I studied several hundred supposed contradictions in the bible and found that they all come from taking the verse out of context or simply not
understanding what is written. I have studied at least conceptually most major religions. I have spoke to many men of various religions regarding
What I have found is their seems to be one universal truth. Everyone that truly loves God loves his neighbors, all of them. Realize I am not saying
every Christian, simply everyone who loves God with all their heart. Men like Gandhi just for reference. Although he did not believe in the bible he
did agree with the message of love that was found within its pages.
But there is a transition from worldy understanding to spiritual understanding. Let me explain.
If God loves us why has he left us in so much chaos? Maybe he didn't. I believe that several key principles in the bible have been destroyed by the
Catholic interpretation of the bible. There are 40,000 denominations; doesn't that in itself prove that the bible is at least confusing the people
who claim they believe in it?
Is it possible that God gave us a book, that if we only do what it says than everything else will fall into place?
You see we continue to argue with even our family members. If we can't turn the other cheek for those that we love how can we ever learn to love our
enemy? If husbands can't even serve their wife how will they serve those that they don't love? If we don't take care of the people close to us
how can we care for the widows and orphans we don't know? We all want love to just magically swoop in and take over, and this is sort of what being
born again is like. Jesus promises us that if we believe in him, and show our faith is real by doing what he asks he will come to us.
He came to me. In my head is a biblical interpretation that leaves the reader with no contradictions, a sound set of instructions and a promise of
righteousness in this life and in the life to come. Notice that righteousness is available to all men in this life, because we all have one father
and he loves us all.
Although I will bring this interpretation to the world, you do not need me to find it. Have enough faith to believe that Christ was teaching us
exactly what to do to find him. Turn the other cheek next time, serve your wife. Just do it by faith.
You see no chaos, and its logic is both earthly and spiritual. Earthly in the since that if you do what you are told you will receive a reward. But
the reward surpasses anything that can be considered earthly. Anyone who has received this reward will know for a fact that God is real. The
complete changing of a man from physical to spiritual cannot be made without Christ. Any man who has moved from the physical to the spiritual has
done so by the power of Christ, even if Christ choses to reveal himself under the name that he shares with his father. Love.
Have I at least proved that I am a follower of the bible and Christ and not a follower of Christianity the religion. In Christ there is no religion,
there is the universal truth that there is only one God and we are all his creation. In the bible God refers to himself as the father of all men and
Christ the savior of all men. Not some men but all men.